+ IDM as Jazz +

Pedro F. Cevallos Jr. (cevallos@juno.com)
Sat, 10 May 1997 23:31:02 EDT


On Sat, 10 May 1997, KaisrSolze@aol.com said:

>I was just discussing music with my mom, and she, not knowing what i
listen
>to, told me I should get into jazz(which I like, I'm just less
interested at
>this point in time). She started talkng about the whole improv thing,
so I
>defended "IDM" as a live form of music. However, she got me
thinking--for
>all this list's comparisons between idm and jazz, is there really a
parallel?

"It's all jazz" -- Leonard Bernstein

>Is there any equivalent improvisation, especially among more than one
person
>(after all, there are jazz sextets, etc., with 6 guys all playing off
each
>other). Even djs are forced to play the compositions of others--they're
>limited by having an instrument not versatile in the way the sax is.

I have to disagree. Listen to Coldcut and DJ Food and tell me that's not
three musicians using their instruments (turntables, samplers, drum
machines, etc) playing off each other. What about Invisible Scratch
Pickles or the Solesides Crew -- "jazz" if I ever heard it!

>What do the best live IDmers do--are they really able to do original
improv with >the tools they use?

Just hear Autechre live and tell me what you think?

>On a related note, not meaning to offend anyone (I haven't heard his
music),
>why is there such a big Herbie Hancock love-in on this list? Here in
NYC
>he's advertised by the radio station that bills itself as "the smoothest
>place on earth", also playing enny G and his ilk.

He is one of the original electro pioneers. He also did a lot of "jazz"
with Miles Davis. WOW!

>My parents, both big into jazz, just laugh when I mention hancock's
name--my >dad called him profoundly uninteresting. Why that reaction
from 2 openminded >people?

Taste has nothing to do with openmindedness. You can give new music a
try, but if it doesn't tickle your aural pallates it just doesn't it.

Peace,

Pedro Cevallos

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