Re: URB


angedella isafella (notmusic@hotmail.com)
Thu, 09 Dec 1999 15:32:28 GMT



really/ name some comps with this kind of rhytm . ill try it. but hey more
weird noises and rhtytms find thier way ont charts via r and B than
anyother format that has a shot at mass appeal. Kellis" I hate you so much
right now"(caught out there)is very innovative

>From: stephanie <nnine@yahoo.com>
>To: angedella isafella <notmusic@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: URB
>Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 13:44:58 -0800 (PST)
>
>Hmm... I'm uncomfortable with this...I think the whole
>thing would make more sense if the racial aspects were
>removed. maybe it's enough to say that the author
>thinks r&b is stiffled and would do well to broaden
>its horizons, but what I'm hearing here is that it
>doens't need to because the listening demographic is
>satisfied with what it's getting, and furthermore, the
>producers are not enthusiastic about exploring
>experimental territory. Now am i reading you right?
>
>Isn't it juan atkins? techno btw is much more than
>thud thud thud thud; the good stuff is more like
>crunchitycrunchitycrunchitycrunchityBdtdBdtdBdtdBdtdBdtdWAHBdtdWAHBdteWAHBdtdWAH
>
>--- angedella isafella <notmusic@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > dear list: Hey Black people(scott joplin)invented
> > ragtime but thats not who
> > listens to it. ;)
> >
> > My point is that the writer said that r
> > and b is inbred and
> > needs to embrace these other black created musics
> > like 4-hero and duane
> > atkins techno. Im saying A )r and b is fairly good
> > today. B) "The brothers
> > dont be checkin for 4 hero at the rekkid sto"
> > (joking) . r AND B see
> > CELLI's "CAUGHT OUT THERE" . i like the melodies
> > that Destiny's Child ..
> > this stuff is good and yes its done under certain
> > constraints of tempo .
> > Techno is also rigid as in 4 /4 bangng away.
> > Jungle is ... something else.
> > The article did give props to Timbaland for his
> > mainstreaming of jungle. I
> > just was sticking up for R and B.
> >
> > >From: stephanie <nnine@yahoo.com>
> > >To: angedella isafella <notmusic@hotmail.com>
> > >CC: ajlist <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
> > >Subject: Re: URB
> > >Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 09:18:54 -0800 (PST)
> > >
> > >I don't understand what you're saying. Can you
> > >clarify, please? Are you saying black people want
> > >nothing to do with jungle and techno? that doens't
> > >make any sense to me, since many innovators of both
> > >genres were(are) black, and that statement seems
> > >misguidedly hung up on race. Are you saying soul
> > as a
> > >genre is unwilling or incapable of incorporating
> > those
> > >influences?
> > >
> > >I think I'm totally confused and just don't get
> > what
> > >you're saying.
> > >
> > >The real techno innovators are in SWEDEN!!!!!
> > Mmmmm,
> > >delicious crunchy beats....Cari Lekebush... =9
> > >
> > >--- angedella isafella <notmusic@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > dear list: I hated the latest issue of Urb "the
> > > > future issue" .The most
> > > > Insulted part was the part about R and b music
> > .The
> > > > notion that new soul can
> > > > be made by including jungle and techno
> > influences.
> > > > I imagine black people
> > > > thinkig"Is the girl crazy" ? R and B is the
> > music
> > > > that consistently has to
> > > > marry innovation and mass appeal with formualic
> > > > production and
> > > > mechanization. Given the constraints these guys
> > > > operate under they have
> > > > quite a job . The future of soul isnt some four
> > > > four stuff though im sure
> > > > this is some place for it. Im also tiredd of
> > hearing
> > > > about the detroit crew
> > > > of techno inventors. Gee they are in every other
> > > > issue > i liked Big fun but
> > > > hey it was a while ago.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "christopherotto" <cotto1@gl.umbc.edu>
> > > > >To: <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
> > > > >Subject: Re: spin
> > > > >Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 07:42:38 -0800
> > > > >
> > > > > > 3) call '99 the year of the "house music
> > > > revival"
> > > > >
> > > > >when was the first house era?
> > > > >
> > > > > > The way trends pop up and die off is so
> > > > disgusting
> > > > > > because they're a complete fabrication by
> > > > publications
> > > > > > like this. Magazines of this calibre never
> > have
> > > > > > existed to celebrate music or any of the joy
> > it
> > > > brings,
> > > > > > only to shout about what's currently (and
> > thus
> > > > definitely
> > > > > > not permanently) cool. I could care less
> > about
> > > > being
> > > > > > "commercial" vs. being "indie", who cares if
> > > > Spin is
> > > > > > "commercial", it's irrelevant: it's not
> > about
> > > > the music.
> > > > >
> > > > >wordemup. my favourite parts were:
> > > > >
> > > > >1. their wholsale appropriation of design style
> > > > from the face the other
> > > > >year
> > > > >2. "the big beat invasion"
> > > > >4. the fashion spread about bboying that looked
> > > > like it was video grabbed
> > > > >from beat street
> > > > >
> > > > >also the articles that talk about modest mouse
> > as
> > > > if they were part of
> > > > >fluxus or something are a little hard to look
> > at-
> > > > it is kind of hard to
> > > > >find
> > > > >a balnce though in music writng between media
> > > > theory type stuff and saying
> > > > >thing slike " this shit is dope" but when it
> > works
> > > > it is great
> > > > > the face, surface, urb, and xlr8r have some
> > > > decent stuff sometimes on
> > > > >this
> > > > >tip.
> > > > >
> > > > >christopherotto
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jonathan
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
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