christopherotto (cotto1@gl.umbc.edu)
Fri, 16 Jul 1999 18:13:42 -0400 (EDT)
On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Elson Trinidad wrote:
in my opinion jungle and funky house and things like that occupy the space
jazzfunk occupied now. the new genres just feel more right right now,
moving faster since just about everything else does, with soundbytes
instead of ballads. while they are different, i do think that these forms
have just as much soul and funk to them, and can make you feel good.
the only thing i don't like about them (well dandb/triphop more) is the
pretension often involved. i think house capture smore of the spirit of
the earlier genres and is more about loving life and having a good time,
as does hardstep and hiphop. i think the idea of drum and bass being more
experimental is extremely exaggerated - it is not put together any
differently than other genres and i don't think sounding futuristic makes
it so, if that makes any sense at all.
christopher otto
>
>
> Steve Catanzaro wrote:
> >
> > Hey all, a question; Not to disparage D&B or jungle or anything electronic,
> > but I've always seen this type of music as a bit seperate from other types
> > of groove music; jazz funk, Headhunter era Herbie Hancock, Sly Stone, Stevie
> > Wonder, AWB, some Sade, the Brand New Heavies, Jamiroquai, etc. This is what
> > I, (for purposes of this question) might call classic "acid jazz;" the funky
> > beats, the Rhodes, wah wah guitar, horns, etc.
>
> I understand what you're taling about. For the most part, a great deal of why it
> that was (relatively) popular was because of the whole '70s retro thing...In
> turn, things no one wanted to touch back in the '80s became the style,
> music-wise and production-wise (like dry vocals and dry drums). Even
> painstakingly re-creating "that 70s sound" became an artform for some artists
> (Greyboy Allstars, anyone?)
>
> IMHO, it's great, but it can only go so far. The 70s was the 70s, and you can
> only make so much out of it without repeating yourself. I'll always love rare
> groove, the "classic" acid jazz sound, jazz-funk, etc. But these days I'm more
> into drum n bass and such...basically, that's the sound of the future, rather
> than the past (strictly my opinion, not a judgement call). I personally think
> it's more satisfying to do something no one's done before than something that's
> been done (much better) in the past by others...that way, there's no standard or
> precedent by which others can judge you against - you become the standard.
>
> Elson
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