Re: slightly OT: Buena Vista Social Club

From: Marco Pringle (freakymarco@yahoo.com)
Date: Fri Dec 08 2000 - 23:46:18 CET

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    Hi Joni (and rest of Listees...),

    --- "joni ." <kitty429@hotmail.com> wrote:

    1 Are these two groups related to eachother and if so how?
    2 Does anyone know which of their albums are best or is
    there a particular album that is better to pick up from
    these latin Gods!?

    --- Stimp <stimp@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    > To answer your question, although both
    > records came out at approximately the same time, they
    > don't have anything (that I know of) to do with each
    > other.

    > The Buena Vista Social Club got the huge, well
    > deserved props that it did mostly because it's a Ry
    > Cooder collaboration, and Warner knows that anything that
    > Ry Cooder touches turns to gold.
    >

    Yes, as Juuso Koponen noted, both the Buena Vista Social
    Club and the Afro-Cuban All Stars share many similarities,
    including singers, musicians, and labels, while being
    produced and Exec-produced by the same people (Ry Cooder
    and Nick Gold, respectively).

    With apologies to Stimp, while Ry Cooder's collaboration
    may have added many resources for promotion, etc., in my
    opinion, BVSC succeeds _in spite of_ his input. His
    intrusions on slide and electric guitar licks seem
    distinctly out of place. For my money, the ACAS' first
    album, 'A Toda Cuba Le Gusta', is the better buy because
    Cooder's intrusions are fewer, and the prowess of these
    cuban luminaries is left to shine (their second album,
    'Distinto, Differente' provides much of the same, although
    I think I like the first one better - but that might be
    because I've had the chance to listen to it more).

    With the success of these two releases, just about everyone
    featured on these releases put out their own solo album,
    with titles from Ruben Gonzales, Ibrahim Ferrer, Iliades
    Ochoa, Compay Segondo, and Omara Portuondo. In addition
    there have been many "roots of buena vista"-type albums,
    some which feature early vintage recordings of said
    artists. In truth, it's been quite hard to keep tabs on
    all these releases, and because of their ubiquity, i'm
    starting to take a 'been there, heard that' attitude to all
    these cuban/latin releases, and all the tracks start
    sounding the same after a while. I can attest to having
    listened to the Ferrer and Portuondo albums, and quite
    enjoyed them. I also liked the Gonzales recording.

    Branching out a bit, you might want to look at what some
    other labels have been putting out. Cubop has been
    releasing and re-releasing solid latin recordings for years
    now. Their most recent 'Viva Cubop' compilation might be a
    good place to start. Six Degrees records has also been
    putting out a bunch of dance-floor friendly dance records.
    Their recent 'Cuba Without Borders' has a very similar feel
    to the BVSC and ACAS records.

    And then if you want to bring it back to the acid jazz
    topic, there's a couple of recordings which kinda hafta be
    mentioned here: Six Degrees' 'Latin Travels' album and
    Ubiquity's 'New Latinaires' series. Latin Travels features
    new work with a heavy latin sound from all our favourite
    producers including Fila Brazillia, St-Germain, Bob
    Holroyd, and (AJ list favourites) Jazzanova. The 'New
    Latinaires' series' tracks are either new work, or vintage
    work that has been remixed and brought up to speed.
    Although there's three in the series at this time (More to
    come, I'm sure), I quite like the second one; The dnb-ish
    P'taah track is a standout, even amongst other great tracks
    from latin masters Papo Vasquez and Francisco Aquabella,
    and house master Joe Clausell (no Jazzanova track on this
    one, but there is one on volume one...)

    Maybe your local library might have some of these titles so
    you can preview them to see which you prefer before going
    out and buying them. Although with christmas coming, it's
    hard not to get into the spirit of mass consumerism...

    Best of Luck,

    =====
    Marco Pringle, host of
    the Fat Beat Diet - Way late, Tues nights/wed morning
    CJSW 90.9FM (Calgary) - in real audio at:
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