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-----Original Message-----
From : Olaf Molenveld <olaf@interactivelink.nl>
To : B. Young <bjy07@hotmail.com>; acid-jazz@ucsd.edu
Date : 31 March 2001 16:02:23
Subject : Re: This Music & Race
mmm.funny you say this, i must say that a lof of times i am surprised that a
>certain producers is a white-coloured person...especially when i hear some
>of the smooth afrofunk stuff etc. that's produced.....i must say that one of
>the main things i love about house/garage/nujazz/drum 'n bass/whatever funky
>quality music is the integration and mixing of all kinds of racial
>influences.....white guys/gals producing amazing afrofunk, coloured people
>producing amazing kraftwerk influenced electro/techno, brasilians producing
>UK born drum 'n bass, germans producing brasilian oriented house music.....i
>love it! :)
>
>some “funny“? stories: Rae and Christian did a session once with bobby
>womack...when they showed up at his door he was amazed that these 2 white uk
>guys where actually producing this soulfull music he heard from them, he
>really thought they where black guys...
>
>in an interview A Guy called Gerald, who now lives in the states, told that
>a lot of times when he spoke to black people in the states they couldn't
>believe that there were also black people living in the UK....the world was
>either divided in african people or afro-americans...
>
>Olaf
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: B. Young <bjy07@hotmail.com>
>To: <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
>Sent: zaterdag 31 maart 2001 16:03
>Subject: This Music & Race
>
>
>> I'd like to get something off my chest. I had a conversation recently
>with
>> my brother who i havent heard from in a long time. I was talking to him
>> about the music I'm playing and he says... “well, I know some white boys
>> that might be interested“. I was immediately offended and jumped all over
>> him saying “these are black artists, black people developed this shit!“.
>He
>> was fully surprise as I ran out the mouth about techno, house, acid jazz,
>> drum n bass and how a good majority of the originators and producers of
>> electronic music were/are black. He then apologized and said “well now i
>> know“.
>>
>> A LOT of people I know consider this stuff “white“ music and can't
>conceive
>> of black people making anything except hip hop or r&b. I've had this
>> conversation with at least a dozen people. People are always surprised as
>I
>> run down the list of all the black artists that create electronic music.
>> It's like the only black music in there heads is hip hop, r&b, and then
>jazz
>> is for old people. Don't get me wrong, I do know people who aren't
>ignorant
>> on this subject, but the majority of people are.
>>
>> At what point has this music been considered by the masses to be
>“white“?...
>> at least here in America most people consider techno, house, and most so
>> called underground types of music as white or rave music. Was it a result
>> of the rave thing? I understand most of rave music could be considered
>> 'white', at least in this part of the world, but there is so much dope
>> soulful ethnic music that gets labeled as white in the minds of those who
>> don't know. The stuff I collect isn't getting any play at raves. All the
>> raves i ever went to played shitty techno, house, trance and weak ass
>> jungle. Its so frustrating. The race of the producers has never been an
>> issue with me untill recently.
>> As i browse my collection it just so happens that 80% of it or more is by
>> various peoples of color from around the world. I didnt consiously plan
>it
>> that way. I don't care what race these guys are (well, I guess it does
>make
>> me feel more proud of my collection now that I realize most of these guys
>> are of color). My question is when did this music become “white“ music.
>> And do the masses in other countries think the same way? Why the hell do
>> black people equate electronic music with white people? Before anybody
>jumps
>> to conclusions, I am not ignoring the contributions white people have made
>> to this music... some of the best artists around are white. I'm just
>really
>> tired of people calling it “white music“. Whats up with that? And
>finally,
>> there is a huge amount of electronic music circulating that i'm completely
>> unaware of... is most of it in fact created by white people?
>>
>> Beau.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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