Re: [acid-jazz] Scratching digitally (from New York Times)

From: leslie shill (icehouse@redshift.com)
Date: Wed Dec 04 2002 - 04:09:01 CET

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    Ridu,

    because you belong to the lists you do it is obvious to me that you are a
    serious music lover and that is the top wash as far as I am concerned, that
    you happen to adore vinyl as a medium is just a personal thing and I
    understand that although I only occasionally have vinyl in my mixes, but I
    do understand that there are those of us who happen to be serious vinyl
    aficionados and I respect folks for that! My quibble with your statements is
    really about the qualitative side of things, you seemed to suggest that
    vinyl DJ's are better by definition and I have a big argument with that
    notion, a real big one but I realize that you are not trying to offend,
    rather taking the side of the media of your choice. I would venture to say
    that ulitmately it matters not a jot if you are a good DJ just what medium
    you are using to weave your web. Once I get things moving on the dance floor
    or on the air I would defy anyone to really tell the difference, when the
    dancers go off and the segues settle into the real groove I doubt that 99%
    of people would realy be able to tell what I was spinning but what is more
    important to me is that I don't think they really care at all, truly dude,
    it is only us deep music and dj-heads who give a real shit about that sort
    of stuff because we are just so into it! I am unable to scratch with my
    Numark CD players although I have witnessed people doing remarkable things
    with CD players, and I vote with you in that there are some things you can
    do with vinyl that are not possible with CD's, what the qualitative element
    in this really means I am unable to say! Every now and then I feel like I
    should have the scratching thing down and at my fingertips but then I see
    people going off and having a really good time and I realize all over again
    that it just does not matter, if you got it going on then the medium is not
    the message, its just the medium! I have learned that there are certainly
    things that make a difference to one's performance as a DJ but those things
    have nada to do with the medium, they have to do with your feel, intuition,
    rhythmic feel, selection, presence and the energy you put out into what you
    are doing, not whether you are spinning vinyl or not. I admire people who
    are really down with their stylistic stuff and who are devoted to their own
    trip but those things do not make them good DJ's, just serious devotees!

    Leslie/The Power of Sound
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: <ridu_moya@hotmail.com>
    To: "Velanche Stewart" <vstewart@calpoly.edu>; <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
    Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 6:46 PM
    Subject: Re: [acid-jazz] Scratching digitally (from New York Times)

    > Thanks everyone who responded for making me bite my tongue on the "talent"
    > remark.
    > Please note that I do respect people who use CDs and are good at it. A few
    > friends of mine do.
    >
    > And I also did mention that I use CDs for tracks I can't get on vinyl. So
    > it's not the same as 'the guitar guy' saying a turntable is not an
    > instrument. They're right it's not. It's not even in the same category.
    >
    > I apologize if I offended any who use solely CDs, but my opinion is biased
    > because I love vinyl. I am not dissing anybody who does as an artist, it
    has
    > nothing to do with talent. I just wanted to make clear that it's not the
    > same. One will not replace the other.
    >
    > ...I wish I could play the guitar.
    >
    > Love,
    > Ridu
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
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    > To: <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
    > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 6:14 PM
    > Subject: Re: [acid-jazz] Scratching digitally (from New York Times)
    >
    >
    > >
    > > It's been rehashed time and time again on this list. And you know what?
    > > Good music is where you find it.
    > >
    > > To me, it doesn't matter if it's on CD or vinyl. Even though I have a
    > > pair of 1200s at home, I plan to get one...maybe two...CD players to add
    > > to my deck next year. Many labels these days burn music onto CD-Rs as
    > > "test" media due to both cost and ease of use, and to me the music
    > > matters far more than whether or not someone uses vinyl or CD. Vinyl is
    > > my preference, but cool music is not going to have a blind eye turned on
    > > my watch simply because it's not on vinyl.
    > >
    > > Those are my thoughts, and I'm sticking to it. :-)
    > >
    > > V.
    > >
    >



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