FW: [acid-jazz] outing

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    Oh, if we want to talk industrial...shouldn't we go back to Nitzer Ebb,
    Bronski Beat? Or does it go back even further?

    :: Lynne d Johnson ::
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    From: "Stimp" <stimp@aei.ca>
    Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 15:22:13 -0500
    To: "Acid-Jazz Listserve" <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
    Subject: Re: [acid-jazz] outing

    Cool, another fan of Can (Krautrock legends). These guys can loosely fit
    into this group in that they were one of the first rock bands to really
    incorporate electronic sounds (I don't mean keyboards and such) into their
    music. Their first record, "Monster Movie" is widely considered to be their
    best, but all of their late 60's early70's output is pretty damn good. For
    the unitiated, they've recently released three separate "Best of"
    compilations which go by the title of "Cannibalism vols.1, 2, 3" I'd
    probably go for Vol.1, since it traces their earlier, more critically
    acclaimed material.

    I'm a bit surprised that the band Throbbing Gristle was mentioned in this
    whole NIN thread, since they're one essential source and inspiration for the
    later industrial movement.

    Stimp
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Dan" <dzacks@po-box.mcgill.ca>
    To: "Acid-Jazz Listserve" <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
    Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 11:51 AM
    Subject: RE: [acid-jazz] outing

    > Hey folks,
    > While I can't profess to liking NIN, or in fact ever listening to NIN, I
    can
    > admit to recently enjoying a lot of music that doesn't traditionally fit
    > within the parameters of our genre. I am, for example, madly listening to
    > Can's "Ege Bamyasi" which, while well within the rock idiom, is crazy
    funky
    > and dancefloor friendly (if the crowed is open). I'm also enjoying the
    > funky prog-rock stylings of Tasavallan Presidentti's "Milky Way Moses",
    > purchased because I pick-up everything I find on the Janus label. So I
    > agree, there's no reason we shouldn't discuss other musics on this list if
    > they have some shred of relevance to the general aesthetic we enjoy.
    > Dan
    >
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    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Johannes Schneemann [mailto:pressestelle_schneemann@web.de]
    > Sent: November 30, 2002 8:26 AM
    > To: acid-jazz@ucsd.edu
    > Subject: [acid-jazz] outing
    >
    >
    > Hey Stimp,
    >
    > i'm a NIN fan too and i'm in this list. i think "The Downward Spiral" is a
    > quite good record. it's perfect mixture of brutality and silence. that's
    my
    > opinion . . . and as long we are not really changing the acid jazz topic i
    > think it is okay to talk about other music or musicians. that is a way to
    be
    > flexible and show other music to other people. really innovative stuff
    > allways comes from the outside. i know this mail is a bit confusing, but
    i'm
    > from germany and very tired, but i hope you will see what i try to
    express.
    > bye !
    >
    > johannes
    >
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    :: Lynne d Johnson :: <BR>
    :: lynne@lynnedjohnson.com ::<BR>
    :: http://www.lynnedjohnson.com :: <BR>
    <BR>
    &quot;Rap music is a technologically sophisticated and complex urban sound.=
    &quot;<BR>
    --Tricia Rose, Black Noise<BR>
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    <B>From: </B>&quot;Stimp&quot; &lt;stimp@aei.ca&gt;<BR>
    <B>Date: </B>Sat, 30 Nov 2002 15:22:13 -0500<BR>
    <B>To: </B>&quot;Acid-Jazz Listserve&quot; &lt;acid-jazz@ucsd.edu&gt;<BR>
    <B>Subject: </B>Re: [acid-jazz] outing<BR>
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    <BLOCKQUOTE>Cool, another fan of Can (Krautrock legends). &nbsp;These guys =
    can loosely fit<BR>
    into this group in that they were one of the first rock bands to really<BR>
    incorporate electronic sounds (I don't mean keyboards and such) into their<=
    BR>
    music. &nbsp;Their first record, &quot;Monster Movie&quot; is widely consid=
    ered to be their<BR>
    best, but all of their late 60's early70's output is pretty damn good. &nbs=
    p;For<BR>
    the unitiated, they've recently released three separate &quot;Best of&quot;=
    <BR>
    compilations which go by the title of &quot;Cannibalism vols.1, 2, 3&quot; =
    &nbsp;I'd<BR>
    probably go for Vol.1, since it traces their earlier, more critically<BR>
    acclaimed material.<BR>
    <BR>
    I'm a bit surprised that the band Throbbing Gristle was mentioned in this<B=
    R>
    whole NIN thread, since they're one essential source and inspiration for th=
    e<BR>
    later industrial movement.<BR>
    <BR>
    Stimp<BR>
    ----- Original Message -----<BR>
    From: &quot;Dan&quot; &lt;dzacks@po-box.mcgill.ca&gt;<BR>
    To: &quot;Acid-Jazz Listserve&quot; &lt;acid-jazz@ucsd.edu&gt;<BR>
    Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 11:51 AM<BR>
    Subject: RE: [acid-jazz] outing<BR>
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    &gt; Hey folks,<BR>
    &gt; While I can't profess to liking NIN, or in fact ever listening to NIN,=
     I<BR>
    can<BR>
    &gt; admit to recently enjoying a lot of music that doesn't traditionally f=
    it<BR>
    &gt; within the parameters of our genre. &nbsp;I am, for example, madly lis=
    tening to<BR>
    &gt; Can's &quot;Ege Bamyasi&quot; which, while well within the rock idiom,=
     is crazy<BR>
    funky<BR>
    &gt; and dancefloor friendly (if the crowed is open). &nbsp;I'm also enjoyi=
    ng the<BR>
    &gt; funky prog-rock stylings of Tasavallan Presidentti's &quot;Milky Way M=
    oses&quot;,<BR>
    &gt; purchased because I pick-up everything I find on the Janus label. &nbs=
    p;So I<BR>
    &gt; agree, there's no reason we shouldn't discuss other musics on this lis=
    t if<BR>
    &gt; they have some shred of relevance to the general aesthetic we enjoy.<B=
    R>
    &gt; Dan<BR>
    &gt;<BR>
    &gt; ----------------------------------------------------------------------=
    ----<BR>
    &gt; Waxing Deep . Tuesdays 3-5am EST . CKUT 90.3FM &nbsp;www.ckut.ca<BR>
    &gt; ----------------------------------------------------------------------=
    ----<BR>
    &gt;<BR>
    &gt; -----Original Message-----<BR>
    &gt; From: Johannes Schneemann [mailto:pressestelle_schneemann@web.de]<BR>
    &gt; Sent: November 30, 2002 8:26 AM<BR>
    &gt; To: acid-jazz@ucsd.edu<BR>
    &gt; Subject: [acid-jazz] outing<BR>
    &gt;<BR>
    &gt;<BR>
    &gt; Hey Stimp,<BR>
    &gt;<BR>
    &gt; i'm a NIN fan too and i'm in this list. i think &quot;The Downward Spi=
    ral&quot; is a<BR>
    &gt; quite good record. it's perfect mixture of brutality and silence. that=
    's<BR>
    my<BR>
    &gt; opinion . . . and as long we are not really changing the acid jazz top=
    ic i<BR>
    &gt; think it is okay to talk about other music or musicians. that is a way=
     to<BR>
    be<BR>
    &gt; flexible and show other music to other people. really innovative stuff=
    <BR>
    &gt; allways comes from the outside. i know this mail is a bit confusing, b=
    ut<BR>
    i'm<BR>
    &gt; from germany and very tired, &nbsp;but i hope you will see what i try =
    to<BR>
    express.<BR>
    &gt; bye !<BR>
    &gt;<BR>
    &gt; johannes<BR>
    &gt;<BR>
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    &gt;<BR>
    &gt;<BR>
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