Re: the singer!!!

From: leslie shill (icehouse@redshift.com)
Date: Sat Feb 09 2002 - 03:34:28 CET

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    So Danny boy, you are tired of this are you? just when Rick and I started
    getting along you opened your jaw and now its flapping in the breeze, better
    close it before something strange flies into it dude! Whats your story
    anyway? do you play music? are you a DJ? can you dance? hey, maybe you are a
    singer! (now he giggles insanely and snickers as well, snicker snicker!)
    don't take life so seriously, you will pop something vital pal, life is too
    short and beside we are all really friends and fellow music lovers here in
    the long run

    leslie/The Power of Sound

    PS ignore the previous one!
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Daniel Carlsson" <myggovich@telia.com>
    To: "Rick Torres" <sblrocks@pacbell.net>
    Cc: "leslie shill" <icehouse@redshift.com>; "acid" <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
    Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 5:26 PM
    Subject: Re: the singer!!!

    > well,,, why don't you people just shut up on this subject. i'm tired of it
    now!!!
    >
    > Rick Torres wrote:
    >
    > > Hi Leslie,
    > >
    > > Very well spoken, the fact is , yes I am thrilled to be working with
    this
    > > very talented and creative person (Jailyn) and am chomping at the bit to
    > > start releasing new stuff. She is a breath of fresh air to write with,
    in
    > > the studio she is a hardworker, she is extremely self motivated, and a
    joy
    > > to work with, a real team player type. We (Kiran and I) have been
    conducting
    > > auditions for quite a while to find a person who had the kind of voice
    and
    > > attitude we were looking for. we auditioned well over 40 singers for the
    > > job, and while most everyone was very talented, Jailyn had a really
    fresh
    > > approach to her writing and her vocal style was unique without being
    > > distracting. She also is familiar with the industry side of things and
    is
    > > not easily affected by the praise or criticisms of the publicity
    machine,
    > > which is a big plus (I think she'll keep her head on her shoulders ,and
    of a
    > > normal size, when everyone around is telling her she is perfect, love ya
    > > babe.. it is "babe" isn't it?) as for the music, seeing as how I am very
    > > attatched to it, I'll leave it to you all to give me your thoughts, (as
    I am
    > > always in love with the music I'm involved with, my descriptions would
    be
    > > unfairly biased)
    > > rest assured as soon as I am able, I will post a link to the new stuff
    here.
    > >
    > > Thanks for your patience
    > > Rick Torres
    > > ----------
    > > >From: leslie shill <icehouse@redshift.com>
    > > >To: Rick Torres <sblrocks@pacbell.net>
    > > >Cc: acid <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
    > > >Subject: Re: the singer!!!
    > > >Date: Thu, Feb 7, 2002, 7:59 PM
    > > >
    > >
    > > > Rick,
    > > >
    > > > after having read your retort and having considered it for what it is
    worth,
    > > > I feel I have to respond in some fashion. Your assumption that I was
    "on"
    > > > something, even coffee is really silly. One of the reasons I have
    enjoyed
    > > > this list over the years is that there are interesting people who
    belong to
    > > > it and they generally seem to have above-average amounts of thought
    power,
    > > > even when they are expressing ideas and concepts that I find to be not
    to my
    > > > liking I still take in what is said and expressed because it comes
    from a
    > > > space that is in the love of the music! Quite frankly, your calling me
    > > > shallow assumes more than I care to accept, I did look at the photo of
    your
    > > > singer, mainly because I was interested to see whether you qualified
    the
    > > > display or not and you definitely did not. Yes, your singer is an
    attractive
    > > > woman but my comments were not made because or in spite of that and I
    was
    > > > not really upset at your not being a bit of an idiot, not a complete
    one
    > > > mind you, just a bit of a one! If you had said just 25 words on what
    an
    > > > incredible singer she was, or how much you loved her or are attracted
    to her
    > > > or how she fits into the sound of the band, that would have made all
    the
    > > > difference in the world but what you said really dissed her and the
    minds of
    > > > the people who belong to this group because I think there is some
    integrity
    > > > in this group of people and they are unquestionably devoted and deeply
    into
    > > > the music, yes, it's the music stupid, the music! That you could be
    enamored
    > > > of your singer is understandable and acceptable but that you chose to
    > > > portray her the way that you did is not. Still, it was your choice and
    I
    > > > think you found that the people on this list do not accept the point
    of view
    > > > you put forward and implied to be the case. It is really a priority to
    show
    > > > all of you since she is now a member of your band and apparently a
    good
    > > > singer so a clip of her voice with the band would have made any words
    > > > redundant. Now you are probably foaming at the mouth a little but
    chill out
    > > > dude, once people came at you about this photograph and your comment,
    if you
    > > > had just acknowledged what they said instead of getting pissy, then I
    think
    > > > that would have been a lot better. Sadly for you, there are people
    like me
    > > > who like to write and throw things around. Even now you have chosen
    not to
    > > > acknowledge this woman's talent and instead you have chosen to be
    defensive
    > > > about what you did and said! Please tell us now, what kind of voice
    does she
    > > > have, why did you choose her (beyond her looks!) and how will she
    contribute
    > > > to the band. It isn't easy to find good singers but there are many
    pretty
    > > > faces in any given crowd if that is what grabs you and the road to
    musical
    > > > nirvana is littered with them. I understand your ebullience at finding
    a
    > > > good singer, I do not understand your defensiveness at being put on
    the
    > > > spot. I happen to think this is a good point to begin a thread about
    finding
    > > > and working with other people, men and women, the good, the bad and
    the
    > > > uuuuuuugly (whatever that means!) but now it is up to you to play it
    out in
    > > > a positive way.
    > > >
    > > > your move?
    > > >
    > > > the ls.dj leslie/The Power of Sound
    > > > ----- Original Message -----
    > > > From: "Rick Torres" <sblrocks@pacbell.net>
    > > > To: <icehouse@redshift.com>
    > > > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 2:43 PM
    > > > Subject: Re: the singer!!!
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >> Seeing as how there are tons of photos of the rest of the group
    already in
    > > >> circulation, I didn't think it was a big priority to show photo's of
    the
    > > >> rest of us... this in mind, are you upset only because she is
    attractive?
    > > >> If you ask me, that is just a little shallow.
    > > >>
    > > >> ----------
    > > >> >From: icehouse@redshift.com
    > > >> >To: acid-jazz@ucsd.edu
    > > >> >Subject: the singer!!!
    > > >> >Date: Thu, Feb 7, 2002, 4:26 PM
    > > >> >
    > > >>
    > > >> > Well, you got what you deserved and asked for by posting this
    picture
    > > >> > with the inane comment that she can sing as well, not terribly
    > > >> > complimentary to the woman concerned! I would love to read her
    comment
    > > > on
    > > >> > what has been said here. By the way, what does your bass player
    look
    > > > like
    > > >> > or is the image less important because it's a man? This is a verbal
    and
    > > >> > aware group, post pictures and silly comments at your peril!
    > > >> >
    > > >> > leslie/The Power of Sound
    > > >> >
    > > >> > PS WCYPMP?
    > > >> >
    > > >> > --
    > > >> > This email was sent using Red Shift's webmail server.
    > > >> >
    > > >>
    > > >
    >



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