[acid-jazz] it's an exchange silly, not a diktat!

From: leslie shill (icehouse@redshift.com)
Date: Sat Jun 01 2002 - 19:47:18 CEST

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    The playlists are a way, with or without comments, for a number of people on
    the list to exchange information and the recent thread started by Marv is
    reflective of that. Not every post has to be some earth-shaking comment or
    observation, this is a list for discussion and free exchange after all and I
    am just as happy to see what people are listening to as I am to read what
    people feel about their musical interactions with their audiences and the
    music they love/hate and for you to suggest that someone is taking advantage
    by suggesting the use of the "delete" button is really trite nonsense. I
    have never for one minute thought that these playlists would be interesting
    to everyone and they are not meant as an imposition in any shape, manner or
    form, they are quite simply an exchange of ideas with people who might be
    interested. There have been threads on subjects that I could not give a
    continental hoot about but for me to suggest that they are somehow
    inappropriate simply because I have no interest in them would be wildly
    ridiculous and it would seem to me that that is what you are doing. The
    playlists are just easily definable posts and so they can be pointed at.
    Quite frankly my dear chap, I have gained so much from this list from so
    many different musical perspectives and I have come to love a lot of music
    that I would probably have paid no heed to had I not been a member, that I
    hardly ever just delete anything immediately unless it is obviously of no
    interest to me. Please continue to ignore the playlists but please don't
    assume that any sort of tyranny is at hand by the suggestion of the "delete"
    button, you have your gears crossed and it shows clearly, not every post is
    intended for everyone because, as you yourself point out, this is a
    community and a free exchange of ideas, thoughts, feelings etc. along with
    eveything that goes with that, both positive and negative.

    What music are you listening to lately by the way? Since this is an exchange
    I would like to receive something from you in those terms and I invite that
    response from you (and everyone else, of course!), I am interested in where
    people connect musically not just in finding places to post my playlists.
    That is the area that I live in as a DJ, the playlists are just signposts to
    be followed if you have an interest and to suggest anything else is just
    silly. I have refrained from making comments on the music in the playlists
    to allow them to speak for themselves but perhaps you are right and they
    should have some comments and/or critiques and not just be playlists. Seeing
    someone's playlist tells me not only what they are kistening to and whether
    I might want to listen to it but also what music is connected to what other
    music for listees and that has broader implications for me. This is an
    extension of the thread that I enjoyed so much recently about
    negative/positive and the dj as an educator and I welcome those discussions.
    leslie/The Power of Sound
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Marcelo E. Magallon" <marcelo.magallon@bigfoot.com>
    To: <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
    Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 1:40 AM
    Subject: Re: Re Re the power of sound-52902

    > >> Velanche Stewart <vstewart@calpoly.edu> writes:
    >
    > > If you don't like solely playlists, an easy way to remedy the matter
    > > is to simply make use of your email client's (standalone or
    > > web-based) mail filter to weed out unwanted matter of your choosing.
    >
    > This line of thinking is starting to get annoying, you know. Since you
    > could "just press delete" (be manually or in an automatic fashion),
    > does that mean I can abuse the resources made available to me for free,
    > because *I* think something *could* be interesting for *you*?
    >
    > I don't have to pay for receiving extra email, but some people do.
    > "Just deleting" the uninteresting stuff is something that happens after
    > the fact for most people.
    >
    > That said, I don't mind the power of sound playlists as I just ignore
    > them. But I'd appreciate some more discussion and less commercials.
    >
    > > Like it or not, it's a mailing list...a shared community. And like
    > > all communities, you can choose to tune out what you don't wish to
    > > see in several forms of *your* choosing. Please don't expect the
    > > person serving the whole community to attempt to do the filtering for
    > > you on a mass list; it's just not a reasonable expectation.
    >
    > Get real. I never said anything like that. This is not the first time
    > the issue of the playlists comes up. Several different people have
    > expressed rather plainly that some of these playlists are noise, not
    > signal. The only halfway reasonable argument in favour of them made
    > until now has been something like "if I see a piece on several
    > playlists there must be something good about it", and IMO it's rather
    > weak.
    >



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