Re: [acid-jazz] Radio on Demand

From: Tom Giles (thomas.giles@st-annes.oxford.ac.uk)
Date: Sun Jun 23 2002 - 12:15:20 CEST

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    If they shut the company and its website down and made it illegal
    to distribute the software then this would go a long way to
    containing the client. I use an ftp program called hotline, which i
    have managed to download lots of interesting stuff from (all of which
    i have bought if i have liked it). However 3 months ago or so the
    hotline website shut down and there's no where i can find on google
    you can get the software (i was trying to find it for a friend to get
    him on it). There are clone programs though.
    Tom
    On 22 Jun 2002, at 22:43, Eric Kitel wrote:

    From: "Eric Kitel" <eric@ayalounge.com>
    To: <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
    Date sent: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 22:43:53 -0400
    Subject: Re: [acid-jazz] Radio on Demand

    > I think it is practically impossible to make the software unavailalble
    > to new users, right now there are so many off shore websites where you
    > can download copyrighted software and illegal cracks, it wouldn't be
    > very hard to distribute a free open source p2p client this way no
    > matter how the powers that be try to supress it
    >
    > Eric
    >
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Tom Giles" <thomas.giles@st-annes.oxford.ac.uk>
    > To: <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
    > Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 9:36 PM
    > Subject: Re: [acid-jazz] Radio on Demand
    >
    >
    > > Eric, you're correct that such a "true" p2p could not be shut down.
    > > However it could be contained, by making the software unavavible to
    > > new users. Anybody discovered Hotline?
    > >
    > > Found some interesting links and talks regarding p2p, mp3, etc.:
    > >
    > > http://www.futureofmusic.org/
    > > http://www.law.duke.edu/pd/realcast.htm
    > > http://www.eff.org/radioeff/
    > >
    > > haven't had time to read them all. only listened to 'FMC on Online
    > > Music's Future' on the radioeff page. which was very good and
    > > informative. Tom
    > >
    > > On 22 Jun 2002, at 20:20, Eric Kitel wrote:
    > >
    > > From: "Eric Kitel" <eric@ayalounge.com>
    > > To: <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
    > > Date sent: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 20:20:42 -0400
    > > Subject: Re: [acid-jazz] Radio on Demand
    > >
    > > > actually a "true" P2P is just that, peer to peer, with no central
    > > > server to catalog available titles and mediate the file transfer,
    > > > so this means that unlike audiogalaxy a true p2p can never be shut
    > > > down as long as the client software is available (which in this
    > > > case also doubles as a server and relay server) I believe that
    > > > this is how the original Gnutella worked, and it's heirs, like
    > > > Kaza (correct me if I'm wrong) So eventually everyone will
    > > > migrate to the true p2p file share systems, and there will be no
    > > > way for big music to shut them down... unless they start going
    > > > after the users directly, which hopefully will be too much trouble
    > > > for them....
    > > >
    > > > Eric
    > > >
    > > > ----- Original Message -----
    > > > From: "steph99" <beleza@speakeasy.net>
    > > > To: "_dakati _" <dakati@postmaster.co.uk>
    > > > Cc: <AliaK@bigfoot.com>; <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
    > > > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 5:03 PM
    > > > Subject: RE: [acid-jazz] Radio on Demand
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > > > global music library
    > > > >
    > > > > Now, there's another fascinating question. As it stands, you can
    > > > > go to
    > > > your
    > > > > local free library and borrow music. what you do with that cd at
    > > > > home is
    > > > your
    > > > > business. Maybe P2P services can just call themselves free
    > > > > libraries with content online? How do libraries work? do they
    > > > > have special permission
    > > > from
    > > > > each and every publisher to freely distribute books and music,
    > > > > or is it
    > > > just a
    > > > > cultural standard that they can do so? If it's the latter,
    > > > > maybe that's
    > > > another
    > > > > possibility.
    > > > >
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