Re: [acid-jazz] tool requests was 21st Century

From: Mark Allerton (mark@warmspot.compulink.co.uk)
Date: Thu Aug 29 2002 - 09:19:13 CEST

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    Hey, enough dissing Teena Marie! I liked her first time around and
    still do, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one. I can't believe
    you're putting her in the same boat with KC & the sunshine band. Have a
    listen to the album "Irons In The Fire" and tell me I'm wrong.

    On Wednesday, August 28, 2002, at 08:29 PM, Stimp wrote:

    > Y'know, I'm with Pace on this one; it seems that everyone sees
    > even the
    > worst musical travesties with rose colored glasses once they age a few
    > decades. Disco had its revival, with the requisite weaned-on-radio
    > fans
    > trumpeting the genius of Gloria Gaynor and Donna Summer. Now, the 80's
    > are
    > experiencing a bit of a revival, and Kajagoogoo are being spoken of
    > with
    > reverence. Fuck it, it sucked then, it still sucks now.
    >
    > There was ALWAYS a difference between what P-Funk and KC and the
    > Sunshine were doing, between what Elvis Costello and A Flock of
    > Seagulls
    > did, and there always will be. That's why the greats still record and
    > tour,
    > while the others get put on a show with William Shatner singing their
    > praises. DJ's looking for great old-skool beats are far more likely
    > to find
    > them on a Rufus or Graham Central Station record than they are on a
    > Teena
    > Marie K-Tel extravaganza.
    >
    > Frankly, I'm surprised that anyone on this list would even mention
    > most
    > disco the viable musical choice of that era when there's TONS of great
    > Hip-Hop (Grandmaster Flash, Kurtis Blow, Sugarhill gang,etc... you all
    > know
    > 'em) and Punk rock acts whose musical influence is still being felt 30
    > years
    > later. Who'd KC or Teena Marie ever inluence? Sure, it's not all
    > bad, but
    > most of it sucked ass and put musicians out of business. I ain't with
    > that.
    > Throwaway music is just that, no matter how old it is. If not, I've
    > got a
    > pile of Glen Miller and Pat Boone records I wanna sell you......
    >
    > Stimp
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Wm. ERROL PACE" <wm_errol_pace@hotmail.com>
    > To: <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
    > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 9:55 PM
    > Subject: Re: [acid-jazz] tool requests was 21st Century
    >
    >
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>> I dunno, it doesn't seem that far fetched. When I saw DJ
    >>> Z-Trip, he spun a pretty eclectic but mostly hip hop and
    >>> funk set... AND he dropped AC/DC's "Back in Black", doubled
    >>> it up and did a bit of a beat juggle on that
    >>> ever-so-recogizable guitar riff.
    >>
    >> Ah Hah!!! Variety, the Spice of Life. I'll take DJ Krush's Code
    >> 4019's
    >> "Final Home" and then Led Zeppelin's "When the Levee Breaks" from
    >> Zofo.
    > Now
    >> that would be friggin' Good to Go, Funk doesn't just exist where one
    > thinks
    >> it would!!! Then The Cure "Fascination Street" into their version of
    >> Jimi
    >> Hendrix "Purple Haze" from the Stone Free Tribute. Then bust into
    >> some
    > The
    >> Grassy Knoll top it off with Billy Idol/Steve Stevens "Flesh for
    >> Fantasy"
    >> extended oh yeah add in Nils Petter Molvaer's "Khmer" now that would
    >> be
    >> nice. I'll take my Acid Downtempo with a Double Shot of Rock!!!
    >>
    >> Then, if memory serves, he
    >>> let in with an accapella of a Christina Aguilera track, of
    >>> all things. The crowd loved it. Not so completely out of
    >>> place as you might expect.
    >>
    >> I feel much better now, hopefully I am not condemned to 1977 Polyester
    > Hell.
    >> I think folks re missing a point I was making as well. Growing up
    > during
    >> the 70's really sucked in my area here in South Carolina. Closed
    >> Minded,
    >> the Disco-phile were militantly close minded. Me? Close Minded? I
    >> like
    > to
    >> say I'm selective. I know what I like and what I don't but then again
    > still
    >> being here in South Carolina one doesn't get the full exposure to a
    >> wide
    >> variety of music like in major metropolitan areas. I detested having
    > Disco
    >> pushed in my face when I was younger and I'm sure those folks detested
    >> having what I liked having shoved in their faces as well. Once again
    >> it
    >> comes around to variety is the Spice of Life.
    >>
    >> Maybe I was misunderstood a little but the Peace Pipe goes out to one
    >> and
    >> all who got bent.
    >>
    >> Semper Motociclismo,
    >>
    >> Pace'
    >>
    >>>
    >>> --- t-bird <djtbird1@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >>>> i think you guys are totally missing the point of what
    >>>> michael was trying to get across. it's not so much
    >>>> about tool in the absolute, but relative to what he
    >>>> was playing--funk or house. i own and love ac/dc's
    >>>> "back in black", but you'd be hard pressed to find it
    >>>> in my record box when i'm playing funk, or electronic
    >>>> music. it's just completely out of place.
    >>>>> -t
    >>> Marco Pringle, host of
    >>> the Fat Beat Diet - Thursday evenings, 10:30-Midnight
    >>> CJSW 90.9FM (Calgary) - in real audio at:
    >>> http://www.cjsw.com
    >>>
    >>> Hit you with the funk/It's like, who cut the provalone?
    >>> - Blackalicious
    >>
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