RE: the trip-hop/hip-hop thing

chris larkin (C.J.Larkin@reading.ac.uk)
Thu, 20 Jun 1996 12:42:00 +0100 (BST)

I have to admit that I'm no expert on hip-hop, so Ive sat back and
read this thread for a bit tho I started it by equating trip/hip-hop.
This wasnt meant as a definition to stick by but really I was just
replying to a question from someone who heard lots of terms on the list
and wanted a quick explanation. If you look on the sleeve notes of
Smokers Delight, (Nightmares on Wax) theres a quote from EASE saying
"A message to Mr and Mrs Media" where he suggests basically that Trip-hop
is nothing new and that the media have renamed it to remarket it, which
is where my kind of flippant remark came from (accompanied by a ;)). But
I would still say that Trip Hop is far from totally new, and it clearly
comes *from* Hip-hop. That doesnt mean I dont like it!

Chris Larkin
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On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, Dana Cobbs wrote:

> Perhaps trip-hop cant be defined, though many will try, but I CAN define
> hip-hop as the culture it is, its music (rap), and the politics that go
> along with it enough to draw a line between them both. Im not a judge,
> and this was not a popularity contest between one and the other (who
> said THAT?--I happen to like both or else I wouldn't be on this list),
> just an OBSERVATION that trip-hop has its place, and hip-hop has ITS
> place, and AGAIN what relates the two-- the beats mainly.('nothin
> "foolish" there, the way I see it) But I doubt that the 2 will truly
> evolve together....
>
> Long live The Source!
>
>
> >----------
> >From: Tyler Askew[SMTP:tyler@america.net]
> >Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 1996 1:57 PM
> >To: acid-jazz@ucsd.edu
> >Subject: Re: the trip-hop/hip-hop thing
> >
> >First of all, who decides the line between hiphop and "triphop"? Who
> >can
> >actually define "triphop" (probably no one)? so this makes this
> >argument,
> >as to how they relate and/or which one is better, pretty foolish...
> > Secondly, the Source has turned wack...they don't even have a solid
> >feel
> >for the good hiphop coming out today....
> >
> > tyler
> >
> >Dana Cobbs wrote:
> >>
> >> I dont think documenting what the difference between the two is would be
> >> too hard. Trip-hop is a spin off of hip-hop (the connection only made
> >> because of the similar beats) Its NOT hip-hop taken to another level,
> >> rap/hip-hop will move ITSELF to the next level.
> >>
> >> I agree with JP, if hip-hop and trip-hop were so much alike, Id read
> >> about it (trip-hop) in The Source.
> >>
> >> Dane Black
> >>
> >
>