Re: The AJ Seed (was About the 70's "Old School" Originals)

Tony Reid (t-bird@salata.com)
01 May 96 20:08:16 -0800


> Having a couple of great records and seedies in my collection,
> I'd say we have to go back farther than the 70's to find the roots
> of AJ

ma> This might depend on wether your interested in the roots of the music
ma> or the roots of the word, or original definition of the word,
ma> acid-jazz in itself. The word started popping up (at least this is the
ma> story I heard - feel free to correct me) through Gilles Peterson who
ma> used the term to describe the music he started playing around 86-88
ma> (not sure about the year here?!?). Some of the main themes he played at
ma> this time is collected on the AcidJazz vol1-3 series (BeatGoesPublic
ma> released 1991). You find artist such as Funk Inc, "Boogaloo Joe" Jones,
ma> Gene Ammons, Leon Spencer, Charles Earland, Idris Muhammad, Jack
ma> McDuff, Pucho, Eddie Jeffersson - well the list goes on.

ma> This mainly hammond-lead music is, of course, strongly influenced by
ma> the bigg artist at the time (65-75 to look at a wide range of time)
ma> such as for example Donald Byrd and Lou Donaldsson.

umm... how about jimmy smith? lonnie smith? bro. jack mcduff?

ma> One of the first (if not really THE first) modern bands to adopt the
ma> sound was James Taylor Qaurtet (check out The Money Spider and Mission
ma> Immpossible for the rough sound and Wait A Minute for the first "well
ma> produced" album).

ma> A discussion of the real roots of acid-jazz drawn further than this is
ma> in my opinion kinda strange since we all would end up discussing true
ma> jazz-bop and then go further to there influences in more traditional
ma> jazz and blues and then go to ........ think you get the drift :)

umm... bebop was a revolt AGAINST jazz as a dance form (nickolas bros. & co.
excluded, they were doing a different type of dancing).

ma> But yes, to find the true roots to, at least the original, meaning of
ma> the term acid-jazz you would have to go back not only to the
ma> seventies, but also and mainly to the late 60's.

if you listen to some herbie hancock or horace silver from the early 60's, i
think you'd modify your "point of view".

t-bird

... "acid" was chicago slang for stealing...