Re: Chris Bowden sampling Sun Ra (Was: Fujees sampling ABBA)
Tony Reid (t-bird@salata.com)
11 Feb 97 22:47:56 -0800
ki> I'm not a DJ, so forgive me if this sounds dumb... . But back in the
ki> day when turntables were used and before samplers were readily
ki> available, you would have had to use a break at least eight bars long
ki> if you were gonna be able to re-cue the other slab of vinyl in time to
ki> repeat it, wouldn't you?
no. most djs that would dare attempt to construct live breakbeats (ala
grandmaster flash) can do it in 2 or less bars. think about it, 8 bars (in
4/4 time--most of the music we discuss is in 4/4, excepting a few dj shadow
& attica blues tracks) is 32 beats. that's almost long enough to make a
sandwich--cueing isn't nearly that involved (no condiments necessary).
ki> Particularly in hip hop,
ki> constructing a tune over a longer loop might allow a DJ to do
ki> something live with turntables, rather than MCs just rapping over a
ki> cleverly constructed dat-track full of really short samples...
i actually saw a show (david sanborn's "night music"--anybody remember
that?)
where there was an mc, 2 dancers and a dj just going back and forth between
2 copies of the same record. scratching was his way of making the
transitions
more interesting.
ki> I guess
ki> I still get just as much of a kick out of a good extended loop as I do
ki> out of recognizing a short horn stab or something, both seem pretty
ki> creative to me.
w/talent & proper artistry, sure...
>As for sampling wack artists and making them sound cool, has anyone sampled
>a Yanni tune and made something dope out of it? Just wondering. :)
ki> Hey man, leave it out! I'm very sensitive about my Yanni collection,
ki> a'ight?! :)
damn! y'all's biting my style w/this new age thang... seriously, though, i
actually did use a new age track i hated over beats in a mix set years ago
to f*ck w/people's heads, and some dude came up to ask me if it was a remix!
after i stopped laughing, i told him what i'd done... on the other hand,
the
1st time i heard the dna mix of "tom's diner" (s. vega) on the radio i
though
the dj was flying the acapella over the "keep on moving" (soul II soul)
bonus
beats, and i tried it the next day @ work...
t-bird
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