> the kids that like 311 like the chem bros too? absolutely ludicrous.
> but anyways, elson is right on here. The mainstream is absolutely
> essential whether you listen to it or not. Music is and has always been a
> reactionary thing. Without the mainstream, no one would ever get sick of
> the stagnant state of music and come up with something new (ie punk,
> hip-hop, jungle, et al). I don;t listen to the mainstream (save maybe one
> or two groups every once in awhile) but I love it to death.
> scott
>
> On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, elson trinidad wrote:
>
> > At 05.01 PM 7/1/1997 -0700, feesh@asu.edu wrote:
> > >I'm not saying that jungle will go as big gangsta rap or grunge, but
it
> > >will gain a much bigger following than you seem to think it is capable
> > >of. I'm sick of all this crap about how American's don't understand
> > >techno/electronica.
> >
> > Yeah, man. After all, we invented the analog synthesizer, the digital
> > sampler and the personal computer.
> > U-S-A! U-S-A! Woo-hoo! :)
> >
> > Seriously, sometimes people get blinded about this "mainstream" or
"selling
> > out" business that they actually lose touch on what is the real beauty
of
> > it: Its artistic impact. What I mean by it is the genre's contribution
to
> > music, in this case, American music. As an example, take hip-hop; sure
it's
> > gone mainstream, but that only pushes the envelope further on the other
> > end. And if someone had the ability to stop hip-hop from going
mainstream,
> > there would be no hip-hop artists outside the US. No MC Solaar, etc. In
> > fact, it probably wouldn't even go outside New York City. Surem that's
an
> > extreme scenario, but remember, for better AND for worse, hip-hop has
> > influenced music all over the world, either in the form of rapping,
> > scratching or use of drum loops. Some hip-hop purists may call it
> > bastardization, but from another point of view, it only shows how
powerful
> > its influence is...something that grew out of the streets of NYC is now
> > enjoyed all over the world...Jungle has the potential to do the same
thing.
> >
> > Also, look how the progression of musical influence cycles itself -
take
> > for example hip-hop artists from Africa; hip hop's roots were from
Africa,
> > but developed from an American perspective (some would say
African-America,
> > but to the rest of the world, it's still simply "American."), and
brought
> > back to Africa. Isn't that amazing? Same for African jazz artists. As
for
> > Jungle, I don't know how big Jungle as we know it is in Jamaica, but if
and
> > when it does, same thing...
> >
> > Elson
> >
> > -30-
> > =============================================
> > Elson Trinidad
> > Los Angeles, CA, USA
> > elson@westworld.com * http://www.westworld.com/~elson
> > ====================================
Couldn't resist jumping in on this dialogue! A little mind-fodder from the
Brooklyn Funk Essentials (I heard this in concert, but hope it will be on
their new album - any release date info out there?)
"DEM CALL IT SELLIN' OUT. I CALL IT BUYIN' IN!"
Peas
Digit / Boston