Re: Jungle /miami bass

elson trinidad (elson@westworld.com)
Sat, 21 Jun 1997 14:31:37 -0700


At 12.49 PM 6/21/1997 PDT, mark givens wrote:
>

>Dear Wire :
>If jungle can be include on the list why not miami bass. Miami
>bass while slower is sort of the same thing. the difference origins.
>Jungle grew out of house and techno and is utopian and ambient.
>miami Bass grew out of hip-hop and is sexual sexist and is actually
>faster. Dig it: in jungle you follow the "bassline" which is at
>halfspeed 180/2=90 bpms. In bass music you follw the kick which is at
>125 plus. so actually bass is hotter and more aggressive than jungle.

No.....

Actually most jungle is at 160 BPM (164 to be exact; the majority of the
jungle loops I've downloaded off the net are exactly 164). Following the
bassline tempo is a personal choice. Some people follow the drums, some
people follow the bass, some a combination of both.

Miami bass is intrinsically more simplistic, cliche-laden and superficial,
but even the most basic jungle has at least some sort of complexity and
creativity to it, be it in the programming or the choice of sounds.

I tried to write a jungle tune that would "morph" in and out from a typical
Miami Bass "boom chik boom" drum beat to a junglist rhythm, but upping the
tempo of the 808 beat didn't *feel* like Miami Bass anymore. I could have
made a compromise with a mid-way tempo, but it still didn't sound right to
my ears.

Anyone here into making their own loops? I've been using Steinberg's
Wavelab. Its best feature is time stretching, where it will calculate the
BPMs for you and you can change it to any other BPM without messing with
the pitch. Pretty cool app.

Elson
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