Personally I find stuff like the 4 Hero ep, some of the LTJ Bukem stuff,
a track on the Dorado sampler (can't even remember it now) and esp the
Photek remix of Inner City Life, where he's slowed it right down and
over a hip hop beat - I just play this over and over again - to be very
satisfying. I read some James Lavelle comments in Jockey Slut at the end
of the year where he says that people are now going out to see their
dance bands and coming home and smoking up to Radiohead. Well, I beg to
differ - I can't handle the real banging stuff, but the Peshay, Alex
Reece etc stuff where you can just lock into the ambient sounds laid
over beats has something very conducive to late night chill-outs.
Haven't seen Roni Size but I think the live bass is interesting. Conrad
live with Bukem I thought was a bit tiresome. Cleveland Watkiss - a vet
of the British jazz scene - with Goldie, has to be of interest in a
"joinin the dots" kind of way.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DJ Sun [SMTP:djsun@wl.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 1998 11:01 AM
> To: Elson Trinidad
> Cc: philipm@isd.canberra.edu.au; acid-jazz@ucsd.edu
> Subject: Jungle as breakbeat
>
> Well, again lets look at "history". Jungle originated from the rave
> scene,
> a young dance-oriented setting. These kids did not go to these raves
> to
> hear complex musical structures, they wanted to move their collective
> butts.
>
> Along comes Roni Size Reprazent which goes against the norm and makes
> something they imagined comes closer to "jazz"... (witness the use of
> live
> bass, and other live instrumentation, and even a track called "Jazz").
> However, Roni himself admits that he doesn't know or write music and
> that
> he is more in tune with what the underground jungle followers want to
> hear
> as the genre progresses (I'm paraphrasing here, but check out SNC and
> URB
> for quotes).
>
> I personally find New Forms very interesting and I like it. From a
> purely
> musical standpoint (and I'm not a technical expert) its probably
> lacking a
> bit and somewhat repetitious, but the way I use the music is in
> creating
> new sounds anyway by mixing and cutting the tracks with others, does
> not
> require it to be overly complex. So in essence the music is more like
> "intelligent breakbeat" to me.
>
> To answer your question, though, the new 4 Hero EP Earth Pioneers to
> me
> qualifies as "quality jungle". The live bass on "Planeteria" and
> "Loveless" seems as though its actually played and improvised
> throughout
> the track rather than how the Roni Size "live" bass comes across:
> sampled
> and repetitious...
>
> PEACE!
>
> Elson Trinidad wrote:
>
> > At 11:26 AM 1/27/98 +1100, philipm@isd.canberra.edu.au wrote:
> > >haye!
> >
> > forget the hype...there's some great jungle
> > >around but this aint it.
> >
> > Okay...not trying to argue with you, but what *is* "great jungle"?
> What
> > sounds good to you?
> >
> > Elson
>
>