aspeitia axel arturo barcelo (abarcelo@indiana.edu)
Fri, 12 Nov 1999 13:22:48 -0500 (EST)
oh, I m sorry, I could not understand because you are using 'African
American' to mean music from the United States of American from an African
Descent, and 'South American Music' to mean Music from South of the United
States, right?
On Fri, 12 Nov 1999, BAO wrote:
> Yes but those influences manifest to a much smaller extent than you guys
> make it imo. The music side
> is what I mainly refer to. African music is quite different from african
> american music (if I can use these labels).
> At least as far as music goes, Id say african music is probably more
> similar to south american musics.
>
> Just like the differences in european-american music and european music
> (?PC?). Of course with the information explosion, people from each sides
> are
> trying to copy one another, but before these exchanges occured, Id say
> that for the most part musics from different areas where pretty different
> regardless of where the peoples originated.
> But as im sure you know, good music is good music doesnt matter where its
> from
> Just my opinions.
>
> On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, Bob Davis wrote:
>
> > BAO,
> >
> > Don't you think that the music/culture created by African Americans
> > originated in Africa?
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------
> > Bob Davis
> > -----------------------------------------------------
> > http://communities.prodigy.net/music/ - Click Here for PRODIGY MUSIC
> > -----------------------------------------------------
> > http://www.soul-patrol.com/ - Click Here For SOUL PATROL
> > -----------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: BAO <tunde@arches.uga.edu>
> > To: Bob Davis <EARTHJUICE@prodigy.net>
> > Cc: Steve Catanzaro <stevencatanzaro@sprintmail.com>; Adam Cohen
> > <adam_cohen@hotmail.com>; Acid Jazz <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 4:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: African info?
> >
> >
> > >
> > > well if you want to go that route, I guess you are right. But I thought
> > > the question was about music trhat actually originated in Africa. I
> > > know black people in america are of african descent, but it seems slavery
> > > oppression and just the black experience in america in general, made
> > > african-americans make a huge/different kind of impact on music. Africans
> > > in africa were not doing the same kind of music (maybe few similarities).
> > > ANd music that came form africa this century has not really made/had a
> > > chance to make a big impact on world music. So i guess it depends on what
> > > side of the question you are trying to answer.
> > >
> > > On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Bob Davis wrote:
> > >
> > > > Steve,
> > > >
> > > > I agree 100% with your analysis, the fact is that African music has had
> > it's
> > > > greatest influence on the western world, via African Americans, who for
> > all
> > > > practical purposes are in fact responsible for the creation of most of
> > > > Westen (American anyhow) culture!
> > > >
> > > > -----------------------------------------------------
> > > > Bob Davis
> > > > -----------------------------------------------------
> > > > http://communities.prodigy.net/music/ - Click Here for PRODIGY MUSIC
> > > > -----------------------------------------------------
> > > > http://www.soul-patrol.com/ - Click Here For SOUL PATROL
> > > > -----------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Steve Catanzaro <stevencatanzaro@sprintmail.com>
> > > > To: Adam Cohen <adam_cohen@hotmail.com>; Acid Jazz <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 11:15 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: African info?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hmm, "impact of african music on the western world." A little piece?
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, I think it's safe to say that the African influence is the
> > single
> > > > most
> > > > > important thing that happened to music in the 20th century, and it
> > goes
> > > > way
> > > > > deeper than Fela. Any gospel, any ragtime, any blues, any jazz, any
> > R&B,
> > > > any
> > > > > rock&roll, any hip hop piece you can name (not to mention quite a few
> > 20th
> > > > > century classical pieces) is what it is only because of the African
> > > > > influence.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway, as far as African funk tracks, well, Fela was heavily
> > influenced
> > > > by
> > > > > African-American music, which is not the same thing as African music.
> > Funk
> > > > > is Afro-American all the way; so, the more interesting thing about
> > Fela is
> > > > > how Afro-American music influenced African music, which isn't the
> > title of
> > > > > your paper (yet!)
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe you should just pick one artist and describe how they were
> > > > influenced
> > > > > by African styles... Duke Ellington, John Coltrane, Miles Davis, James
> > > > > Brown, and Paul Simon come immediately to mind... but there are
> > thousands
> > > > > more.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Adam Cohen <adam_cohen@hotmail.com>
> > > > > To: Acid Jazz <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 12:27 AM
> > > > > Subject: African info?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I've gotta do an essay for my music class and was thinking about
> > writing
> > > > a
> > > > > > little piece about the impact of african music on the western
> > world..
> > > > > Maybe
> > > > > > talk about the resurgence of african funk tracks by house remixers
> > and
> > > > > > such.. Anyways, just wondering if anyone knows of any good links for
> > > > > > information on Fela, manu dibango or anything else related to
> > african
> > > > > music.
> > > > > > Or even better, if someone already has an essay on this subject (or
> > an
> > > > > essay
> > > > > > on any other music related subject at the University level !!! :)
> > > > Thanks
> > > > > > for any info/essays..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Adam
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Adam Cohen <adam_cohen@hotmail.com>
> > > > > To: Acid Jazz <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 12:27 AM
> > > > > Subject: African info?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I've gotta do an essay for my music class and was thinking about
> > writing
> > > > a
> > > > > > little piece about the impact of african music on the western
> > world..
> > > > > Maybe
> > > > > > talk about the resurgence of african funk tracks by house remixers
> > and
> > > > > > such.. Anyways, just wondering if anyone knows of any good links for
> > > > > > information on Fela, manu dibango or anything else related to
> > african
> > > > > music.
> > > > > > Or even better, if someone already has an essay on this subject (or
> > an
> > > > > essay
> > > > > > on any other music related subject at the University level !!! :)
> > > > Thanks
> > > > > > for any info/essays..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Adam
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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