Richard Zimmerman (zimerman@shianet.org)
Sun, 24 Oct 1999 22:15:44 -0400
who u calling whitey!! :D
p.s. me ist lookeng for some mp3s or good places to buy
"undergroundesque,newer swing/jazz/acid/thingy/music"
p.p.s. yes i don't know how to spell, "Where can I go to sample jazz?
chris (TheTurtle)
----- Original Message -----
From: Erik Gaderlund <erikg@macconnect.com>
To: <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 1999 8:13 PM
Subject: underground(was jamiroquia)
> But, DMX and Jay-z just have the same Cubase/MPC2000 beats, or at least
> when I bother to listen (actually it's their mysogeny that turns me off.)
> And, maybe absolute hardheads is what 'being real' is, but, I'm more
> partial to those who boast about their musical ability--and have
it--rather
> than their moneymaking ability (or don't boast at all just DO.) Its just,
> in the 90s, its only "Show me the money", I tend to avoid big money making
> artists, because I don't agree with the majority of the _CD_ buying public
> who make said artists all their money. Like the mumbles I've heard from
> the Country people (a music genre I don't care for) moaning that Country
> has become "Rock in Funny Hats."
> And, you've got to realize, whether it's Jazz, Blues, Hip-Hop, Acid Jazz
> and such, the majority (Whitey) does have the numbers and the money, so
> the're the buyers on the fringe as well as the center, though the even
more
> 'white' Europeans have better taste, or more varience in fringe music
(like
> ours.) I read an review of a new book on the start of Bop (Jazz after
> Swing) and that it was largely the urban whites who were the paying
> audience that kept bop going, and the fact that the laws kept large groups
> playing (swing), the small combos took over.
> I guess that's why I'm somewhat dissappointed here in the
Majority-Minority
> area of the Bay Area, and our music choices are slowly slipping away into
> the boring majority.
> Staying real is staying _true_ to yourself, not to the record buying
public.
>
> And, we could always chance it to Future Jazz from Acid Jazz (what Lamb
> calls their music)
>
> erik g
>
> >
> >
> >dear list: I read about this unda ?over-ground debate in the recent
source.
> >The guy from the roots called Jay-z and Dmx(/) commercial as hell.
Bullshit!
> >Dmx was the darkest weirdest he-man no girls allowed shit to hit in
years.
> >because it crosses over and sell hes mainstream
> >and the Roots are artist? Bulljewels! The Ropots are the smoother and
more
> >soothing. Plus it seems that the Roots' audience is white College kids
and
> >"backpackers".Which is fine until you start doing realness checks on
other
> >people. If real ="core audience"appeal and vaguely inscrutable/scary. its
> >gotta be DMX over the roots/. I like em both.
> >
> >>
> >>I never agreed with the idea that more people being into a band
> >>automatically makes the band less credible or worthwhile. I think that
> >>attitude also manifests itself with deejays who cover up the labels on
> >>their
> >>records so no one else can get them, with store buyers who buy just
enough
> >>copies of certain records for them and their homies but not enough for
the
> >>average customer to get one, and deejays who don't play records that
"break
> >>out" or crossover. Diss a band because they suck not because they sell a
> >>100,000 records. I think bands like Brand New Heavies, Incognito,
> >>Jamiroquai, etc are worth discussing. Personally I think the new
Jamiroquai
> >>record is very mediocre but I base that on the record and not on the
fact
> >>that they are know mega-stars. I would love for the bands I like to get
> >>famous and make a lot of money, lord knows they deserve it. So everyone
go
> >>out and buy Estereo if you haven't already :> or Visit Venus or
Sternklang.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Dirk van den Heuvel (dirkv@groovedis.com)
> >>Groove Distribution
> >>www.groovedis.com
> >>Your Guide To The Underground
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: debora2 [mailto:debora2@robotek.ru]
> >>Sent: Sunday, October 24, 1999 2:25 PM
> >>To: acid-jazz@ucsd.edu
> >>Subject: Re: Why not Jamiroquai?
> >>
> >>
> >> > Because Jamiroquai is mainstream now and we hate everything that's
> >>mainstream
> >> > and like to pick on little tykes who just suddenly discovered
Jamiroquai
> >>on MTV
> >> > because we like to show them we're much cooler than them.
> >> >
> >> > <said somewhat sarcastically>
> >> >
> >> > Elson
> >>
> >>That's really funny. You mean that music is good when less than 10000
> >>people listen it?
> >>And when there are 10001 this music becomes dirty mainstrean? I
understand
> >>-
> >>you were
> >>talking sarcastically - but as we say in Russia - "every joke has a part
of
> >>joke".
> >>
> >>
> >
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