Simon Booth (sgbooth@unity.ncsu.edu)
Thu, 9 Sep 1999 20:45:05 -0400
> I use the Pioneers dealies which come closest , I suppose , but there is no
> equivalent in my opinion ... apples n' oranges ...
Ah come on! Didn't Pioneer have the CD's you could scratch with!
(evil snicker) But you actually go as far as using both! I'd go crazy
in that case.
> > still can't give cd mixing the same credit. Maybe it's just the
> > view/atmosphere that is created on the turntables (uh...see A-Trak, DMC
> > 1997...big up Montreal).
>
> I'm not including 'turntablism' because that's not the type of DJing we're
> talking about ... 'turntablism' , as the name implies, involves turntables
> ... you don't see a harp player calling himself a 'guitarist'... people
> like trick DJs aren't there to move a dancefloor ... they are more like
> rock concerts that you're watching ... the DJing I think we're talking
> about involves the dancefloor where the DJ is no more but the "man behind
> the curtain" as I think someone said ... then it all comes down to that
> 'same end result' --> making yr ass move around ...
Most turntabilists start out as mix DJ's, and just because you are a
turntabilist doesn't mean you can't mix and put a damn good
dancefloor show too. Didn't Crazy ('98 DMC World Champ) Dj at
the '99 US DMC Championships (with some tricks thrown in), but it
wasn't a turntabilist set. Hm, wasn't he on some big Drum & Bass
tour all across North America? I know Shortcut from ISP spins
weekly at a club up in the bay area. If you specialize in one thing,
you can't call yourself the all out king.
> At 1:10 PM -0700 on 9/9/99, Moonlight wrote:
> > I actually think that might be cooler. Would that be easier or harder to do?
> > Couldn't be that much different than using CDs, right?
>
> I'm not getting into the "is tape mixing the same as CD mixing" comment
> because if you were serious , I feel you should think a little and figure
> it out yourself ... tape mixing would be interesting , though ... some
> decks have pitch controls ...
Its all about what you can do in the end. It doesn't matter what
kind of equipment you use in my book, but improvising with some
crazy ass tapes....now thats cool.
> Moonlight wrote:
> Actually, tape is more like vinyl - tape is analog (unless it's a
> DAT), and theoretically, you can "scratch" on tape (though the
> effect won't be as dramatic; the tape reels revolve much slower
> than 33 1/3 RPM).
I don't see how you could scratch with a tape. Maybe 2 track to
some extent, but the effect wouldn't really do anything. But almost
every scratch is a forward - backward movement at a good speed
(note - faster doesn't mean better) and that doesn't include the
combo scratch or power scratches that what you hear. I could see
some pitch controlled elements and basic on-off-on----off type
scraches (transform scratches). I guess it comes down to the limit
of DJ is his or her creativity.
And you can scratch with digital signals too, the ability to process
something like a scratch can be done, but with a lot more
engineering.
simon
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