RE: Common, Nas, and keepin it Real

From: Richard Hawkins (rhawkins@stark.co.uk)
Date: Tue Apr 11 2000 - 12:24:05 MET DST

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    If music comes out that is crap, diss it until you can no more. The fact
    that we are on this list implies that we are not members of the Britney
    Spears fanclub. Sometimes an artist is ahead of time and people take time to
    catch up. Usually the case is that an artist starts putting out rubbish so
    they can rob the fools of their money. Gary Bartz or Kenny G? I know who I
    prefer but who has the platinum discs? If people want to/ have to sell out
    then their full bank account will hopefully compensate for their empty soul.

    Richard

    P.S. I haven't heard the Common album so this is not aimed at him it is just
    a general point.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Eric Richmond [mailto:erichmon@emerald.tufts.edu]
    Sent: 10 April 2000 20:59
    To: Acid jazz archive
    Subject: RE: Common, Nas, and keepin it Real

    any performer can decide whether they wish to be artists or entertainers,
    and we should not get on their backs for choosing to be entertainers,
    however, they should be called entertainers and not artists.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Sariane E. Leigh [mailto:leighs@wam.umd.edu]
    Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 3:34 PM
    To: Acid jazz archive
    Subject: Common, Nas, and keepin it Real

    I t is very easy for us as listeners and consumers to criticize an
    artist's motivation and desire for diverting from their original form of
    music. I think especially with hip-hop where a large majority of the
    artists never reap any monetary benefits or artistic accolade for their
    work. Vibe did an interesting article on Nas' transformation, and I can
    completely understand why he went the Puff Daddy route, His best album
    "illmatic" went bootleg before he even could receive any type of reward
    for his most passionate and efforts. Looking around at what the masses
    deems worthy, Nas flipped the script for his family and his dignity (oddly
    enough). In addition, our desire for the "same thing as the last" limits
    an artists natural ability to innovate. Not every Stevie album is
    Innervisions, but each album contributed to the evolution of music. So
    before we
    quickly assume that artists, i.e. D'Angelo, Nas, Common, "fell off" take
    into consideration their circumstances and what the monotony the masses
    thirst for.

    > I got no problem with artists stretching and
    > expanding their music, testing the boundaries,
    > exploring new options. I think Common succeeds there
    > by hooking up with a different production team and
    > putting out an album that *sonically* sounds different
    > than the rest of the ish out there.
    > Where I have problems is when artists delve away
    > from the messages and ideals they stood for, the very
    > reason they were respected before. (If you look at my
    > first mesage, I never said Common did this
    > completely). Look at Nas for instance, "Illmatic" was
    > an outstanding album that had success for how organic
    > and raw it came off as. Then he went off in some other
    > direction with his following albums. He might say he
    > *grew*, others would say he fell off.
    > I think fans of underground music hold high
    > expectations of artists because they're constantly in
    > fear of money and fame turning them away from the
    > scene that put them up. So they critically
    > (over)analyze every breakbeat and lyric..
    > This was a long ass, rambling piece signifying
    > nothing but an opinion. Sorry ya'll...
    >
    > -B-
    >
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: Ralph Cooper [mailto:rcooper3@excite.com]
    > > I find that strange.
    > > Waiting for months for an
    > > album by ones "favorite artist" to come out just to
    > > find ways to describe
    > > how much one is let down cause, "it wasn't as good
    > > as the last one". It's
    > > almost like people are afraid to let each other
    > > grow, am I the only one who
    > > is seeing this?
    >
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