Re: Gilles Peterson & Rob (zinger/galliano/whatever)

From: dj t-bird (djt_bird@yahoo.com)
Date: Thu Apr 20 2000 - 13:48:35 MET DST

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    > i get the impression that some of us, judging by certain statements (ie:
    > gilles isn't quite scratching YET) don't fully understand the range of
    this
    > man's djing history.

    trust me, i've researched the guy pretty deeply--the bit about scratching
    was "winking." i've studied his playlists in straight no chaser for a few
    years.

    >while i don't quite put him on the same skill level as
    > say coldcut or dj food (HIS mix on worldwide REALLY dwarfed the skills of
    > peterson....i was embarrassed FOR him....although, again, they're two
    > different styles entirely),

    *very* different. one listens to coldcut/dj food or gilles for *completely*
    different reasons. if gilles never mixed a beat or a drink in his life, i'd
    still want to see/hear him spin as much as humanly possible.

    >he's been around for a number of years (at least
    > twelve or so), and he was djing long before he had radio gigs, record
    > labels, etc.. it was his revolutionary djing/song selection that helped
    > catalyze the entire acid jazz movement (ah yes, we're all on THAT mailing
    > list, aren't we???) -- the sunday sessions throughout the late 80s with
    > gilles and patrick forge, among others, are legendary at the very least.

    if he didn't come w/the stone cold tunage, there would be nothing else--why
    go to his gigs/listen to his show/buy his records?

    > in sum, my point is that we should treat gilles like a record label owner
    or
    > radio personality-gone dj, if we're doing that to begin with (i could be
    > putting things in the wrong context entirely). to be realistic, it's
    really
    > the other way around. i think the reason there isn't much scratching,
    REAL
    > djing (by some standards), etc., is because it really doesn't fit that
    well
    > into the style. i mean, i heard gilles mix TIGHTLY some phat disco tracks
    > in new york -- the man can do it.....it's just not really how it's meant
    to
    > be done on the leftside (speaking of which, and this isn't really a
    > shameless plug, but those more interested in that whole movement as
    opposed
    > to the acid jazz thing as a whole should visit
    http://leftside.listbot.com).
    > best.

    trust me, with enough skill scratching can be done in a way that suits
    almost any genre--if you choose to put forth the effort.
    mr. p may surprise us all and incorporate those techniques in future sets,
    however, i don't think scratching is really where his head is at--think of
    how long it took him to beat-mix in his sets (we weren't expecting him to
    mix, and would have been happy even if had he not).

    even those of us who like that "itch" scratched don't go to see gilles amaze
    us with technique (i did want to check out his transitions, though), it's
    strictly the choons, kid.

    -t

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