Re: Acid Jazz sales list WAS Personal attacks on public lists are in poor taste.

From: Todd Nickolas (nickolas_auction@yahoo.com)
Date: Thu Apr 27 2000 - 13:55:26 MET DST

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    I think that what LB is possibly getting at is that
    there are other people on this list who own or work at
    labels, distributors and/or shops, who deal in this
    kind of music, but don't feel it's appropriate to use
    a discussion group to solicit sales even if it's in
    the context of what's being discussed.

    Maybe a separate acid-jazz.sales list should be
    created? That way private users could also unload
    their used records/CDs in addition to labels,
    distributors and shops selling / promoting their
    product. Such a list called 'whitezone' has already
    been created for techno & IDM buyers and sellers and
    seems to be very useful and successful.

    Just a thought....

    Todd

    --- Gen Kanai <gkanai@earthlink.net> wrote:
    > lb,
    >
    > I want to state that I think your personal attacks
    > at Dirk or his company
    > in this public forum are in poor taste and are
    > inappropriate for the
    > Acid-Jazz mailing list.
    >
    > If contributing positively to the list is one
    > measure of value on the net,
    > Dirk's contributed a lot more to this list than you
    > have. Go back to the
    > archives and you'll see who's been talking up the
    > good stuff and _not_just_
    > to sell records. Dirk talks about stuff that he
    > sells _as_well_as_ stuff
    > that he doesn't sell. Not only that, Dirk adds
    > commentary about artists
    > and labels that we wouldn't have on this list
    > otherwise (his perspective
    > being a relatively unique one running the business
    > that he does.)
    >
    > If you've tried buying dance music online, you'll
    > quickly realize that
    > people like Dirk who run an honest business focused
    > on the music that we
    > discuss on this list are RARE. Ask around on the
    > list and you'll find MANY
    > happy customers of Groove Distribution. I, for one,
    > am happy to have Dirk
    > on this list and hope that this kind of personal
    > attack won't turn him away
    > from contributing to this list as he has done in the
    > past.
    >
    > Anyone who knows anything about music
    > retail/distribution knows that Dirk
    > is in it for the LOVE of the music NOT to make big
    > cash moneybags, because
    > no one who runs an operation like Dirk's (focused on
    > non-pop,
    > non-mainstream music) is making the really big cash.
    > (No offense
    > intended.) He'd be an A&R exec at a big label if he
    > wanted the safe job
    > with the money.
    >
    > Attacking people personally in a forum like this
    > mailing list is
    > inappropriate and in poor netiquette. Take it
    > offline if you have a
    > personal issue with Dirk.
    >
    > Gen
    >
    > p.s. Am I the only one who thought this attack was
    > inappropriate?
    >
    >
    >
    > At 10:28 PM 4/26/00 -0400, Discreets@aol.com wrote:
    > >In a message dated 4/26/0 9:14:05 PM, Dirk van den
    > Heuvel wrote:
    > ><<And what about the simple principle of paying for
    > what you get? Hell, it's
    > >the least we can all do.>>
    > >
    > >In a message dated 4/26/0 10:05:23 PM, Dirk van den
    > Heuvel wrote:
    > ><<And I now feel like I'm repeating myself so
    > unless someone comes up with a
    > >new wrinkle on this discussion I'm gonna shut
    > up...>>
    > >
    > >ok, new wrinkle... when was the last time you paid
    > FULL price for something
    > >you got!? not everybody has the luxury of
    > receiving a sweet little promo
    > >package upon their desk every morning! and fuck
    > downloading music, what
    > >bothers me is how guiltlessly all you seem to talk
    > about are records that
    > >your company sells!? since when did this list
    > become the advertisement for
    > >Groove Distribution!? i mean its one thing to
    > discuss the music you sell but
    > >its another to shamelessly solicit customers while
    > doing so...
    >

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