RE: "Jazz Flavours" (was Re: ltj jazzhead?)

From: Nasir Rasheed (Nasir@habit.com)
Date: Tue Jun 06 2000 - 23:44:07 MET DST

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    I will definitely agree with that.

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     -----Original Message-----
    From: dmcneill@visto.com [mailto:dmcneill@visto.com] On Behalf Of Derek
    McNeill
    Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 2:05 PM
    To: acid-jazz@ucsd.edu; ashinn@artic.edu
    Subject: Re: "Jazz Flavours" (was Re: ltj jazzhead?)

    There are definitely people out there doing a lot better job translating
    jazz into their work.

    Kirk Degiorgio, P'Taah, Planet e, Reinforced, Caertificate 18 and Compost
    come to mind.

    As much as I respect LTJ and his crew for what they've done; I can't help
    but feel that they get too comfortable rehashing the same "atmospheric
    breaks" that they've been using for the past decade.

    Some tracks stand out, but it seems like every Progression Sessions CD that
    I hear sounds exactly the same as the last one. It is nice to sit down
    every once and a while and listen to it, but it doesn't get regular play by
    any means.

    Of course the same thing can be said of the whole Virus/Bad Company/Ram
    school of drum & bass as well.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Aaron Shinn ashinn@artic.edu
    Sent: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 14:53:11 -0500
    To: acid-jazz@ucsd.edu
    Subject: "Jazz Flavours" (was Re: ltj jazzhead?)

    Likewise, I am totally grossed out by half-steppin jazz-mimicry that
    pops up all over the place in dance music. Peshay (who is more of a
    criminal here) and Bukem both really get under my skin in this
    regard... It's so bloody superficial...

    But that's just cuz I don't know how to have fun with my dance music! hehehe
    :)
    Cheers,
    .aaron shinn

    >Hey all,
    >
    >What are people's take on LTJ Bukem's *Journey Inwards*? I find some of
    >the textures extraordinarily beautiful, but as a longstanding jazz fan and
    >amateur jazz musician, I have the same reaction to this album that I do
    >with Peshay's *Miles from Home*: it's in many cases great dance music,
    >but as jazz it is sometimes cringe-inducing. (Dodging slings and arrows)
    >I know this is sacrilege, but it tends to irritate me when little "jazzy"
    >cliches (horn stabs, canned crowd noise(!), etc.) are thrown in at a
    >superficial level, as "flavor." 4hero's Two Pages, for me at least, is
    >much better in this regard; their music seems to have much more of a deep
    >feeling for what is at stake in jazz. I know I'm out of line, but
    >enough about me. What do you all think?
    >
    >Dale

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