i think you missed the point (maybe i did?). what i got out of this
discussion was that labels are basically trying to convince artists (and the
rest of the world) of the following...
here is a little bit of visual basic i like to call the label grinder.
please excuse my sillyness, i am but an online dork and have nothing better
to do with my time but to download mass amounts of music, look at p*rn, and
code havok creating hack applications that try to take over the world.
(yes of course this is untrue and again sillyness, but i hope my point is
understood. some of the world just gets catagorized because of the
technology they make use)
function promote(artist, label) as float
dim mp3, label_profit, large_cashpot_for_label ' letting us know
' our variables
mp3 = piracy ' which is just not the case as
' most of us know mp3s can also
' help small indy labels and
' indy artists by acting as the
' tool BIG MONEY is in place to
' provide. there are plenty of
' other uses, it would be
' pointless to go into here.
do while (mp3 = piracy) ' artists and public are convinced
' labels are looking or their best
' interest and not just cash and
' secure position on the
' sales/promotions ladder
large_cashpot_for_label = large_cashpot_for_label + 10000
loop
label_profit = large_cashpot_for_label ' set the profit margin
promote = label_profit ' return amount of
' promotion to calling
' routine
end function
thanks for putting up with my dork side (wait that is both sides),
;)
chad
tdb coordinator
mailto:chad@thedownbeat.org
http://www.thedownbeat.org/
the source for downtempo music information
-----Original Message-----
From: BAO [mailto:tunde@arches.uga.edu]
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 11:17 PM
To: paul s westney
Cc: acid-jazz@ucsd.edu
Subject: Re: courtney love...
so then how much is enough? they should be making half? sorry no sympathy.
If you really love to make music and want to share then push it on your
own....dont sign with a major label and then bitch later about how little
you are getting. You took the easy way and so you shouldnt expect much.
On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, paul s westney wrote:
> as much a i hate to get involved with these unrelated debates, and as
> little as i like courtney love, i must say that the woman is making a
> great deal of sense, and also stirring up something in the industry
> that's gone unnoticed for far too long. admittedly, 45 000 is a yearly
> salary that most of us, myself included, would be perfectly happy to
> accept right now. but it's an undeniable fact that when she's obviously
> *worth* millions, she deserves a fairer share of what she generates. the
> same hardly holds true in any other situation -- take professional
> sports, for instance. wouldn't there be an uproar if these players, who
> were generating hundreds of millions of dollars in income, were driving
> around in ford contours like the rest of us (to be sure: i don't drive a
> contour...it was just an illustration)??
>
> i used to be strictly against mp3s because of the possible implications
> it would have on the artists themselves. as i put more thought into it,
> it became clear that the only ones being stiffed by mp3 downloading are
> the record labels, who have already paid a fee to the artists.....ie 45
> 000 per year...
>
> the truth in this generation is that the promotional engine of large
> record labels, which has consistently been their only alluring quality,
> simply isn't necessary anymore with the capabilities of the internet. of
> course this has all been said over and over again, and i won't chase my
> tail for the rest of this message....
>
> you get the idea -- it wouldn't hurt to have some sympathy for those
> folks who really deserve more than their current share...
> just a few cents....
> p.
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