> Hmm, what about all the guys who dropped out of Berklee once they got
> a good gig, sorry no names come to my mind.
Jan Hammer, Pat Metheny, Chick Corea--almost anyone famous you can think of
that went to Berklee dropped out when they got a good gig!! That still
doesn't stop the school from mentioning them--everybody wins...
>But, don't you think
> that having an artform studied in school, is a definite sign of its
> maturity? It may not help the 'cause', but, it does show people are
> listening.
> erik g
it cuts both ways. the study shows the "respectability" of the art, but the
acceptance from the mainstream diminishes the perception of being
"revolutionary."
personally, i think that there is still much that can be done with jazz if
people will look at the spirit of jazz as opposed to the *conventions.* a
resistance toward bending or at least *examining* the "rules" is what leads
to the death of an art form.
> as for Blue Note, they do have Charlie Hunter, and recently signed
> MM&W who put out a 'straight-ahead' album "tonic", no mindless
> meandering. And, the Europen arm is the one that releases Erik
> Truffaz, those who are trying to look forward,
don't forget saint-germain--a good direction for them, i think (hopefully
this can redeem the bad ending of the Us3 experiment).
>but, you've got to
> realize once jazz lost its audience to R&B and Soul, it became the
> domain of the White Middle class, who now sustain, the Hip-hoper, or
> at least their children do.
i don't know about that last statement. as a record store employee &
blackman, i can say that there are plenty of non-white people that buy jazz
& hiphop. as far as the big names (in both genres), sure they wouldn't be
as big without popularity w/white buyers, but in jazz (which is *less* about
entertainment than hiphop) i don't think that there's the same type of
pandering toward a particularly white audience--i.e., people that like
jazz-flavored pop come in many colors. i guess i'm feeling that the people
you're talking about matter more because of their class
(middle/upper-middle) than their race--which i think is more varied than
you're accounting for.
-t
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