>
>Hey Elson!
>
>re: 7-8 guys being a pain in the a** to work with. Well, look at the
>Beatles, as a perfect example. There's 4 guys, who, after a while, couldn't
>get along. But I think it's generally agreed that individually, they haven't
>been able to produce what they did as a group.
>
>Even though doing it yourself can be fun, (I'm talking music making, here),
>it seems to me the emphasis on the one-man producer-musician takes some of
>the interaction (i.e. chemistry) out of it. This seems especially true with
>jazz. In fact, Ellington was the master at getting individuals to relate
>together in a group setting.
>
>As for retro vs. the future. Yeah, I think looking back, ala the Acid Jazz
>movement, may in fact be dead... but, I wonder if the real problems lie in
>the fact that there just aren't alot of real creative musicians playing
>instruments other than sampler right now. Is learning saxophone, or piano,
>etc., a dead end these days?
Well, some seem to play both, or they're need to tour, a la Breakbeat
Era, Herbalizer Band, etc.
>Or then again, maybe people just don't know how to appreciate real
>musicians? I mean, Charlie Hunter is just too bad... how many records is he
>selling? And, if not many, is that his fault, our fault, or both?
I just hope to get to his dates a Yoshi's in Oakland at the end of December.
>BTW, isn't it wierd that so many "categories" of music are defined solely by
>the rhythm programming alone? (2-Step, Happy Hardcore, Garage,
>blahblahblah.) It's as if the programming has transcended all else; melody,
>harmony, etc.
>
>Back in the day, Chopin wrote "waltzes" and "mazurkas" which were pieces
>dictated by the rhythm. But, his personal stamp was undeniable. You can tell
>its him in the first few notes. Are we getting as many "personal" musical
>statements nowadays?
Well, this may also be apart of the fact that now with technology one
person can release his own music. Like us downloading Elson's mp3s,
many more people are able to hear that then the few times he can
twist enough arms to get a live gig together in LA. And machines may
seem 'unmusical' but then if we go that way then we should be only
listening to vocals (which I will be hearing at Mission Santa Clara
for the Chanticleer Christmas concert, eight singular male voices.)
As for personal statements, I can pick out the DJ Shadow drums
anywhere, heard the start and end of DJ Krush/DJ Shadow 'Duality' and
when it started I first though DJ Cam, but, then knew Krush, but,
then after coming back to the end of the tune I heard the distinctive
Shadow drums. If they're a good artist they have their own
signature, like the way d'n'b anoraks can tell a Dilninja tune before
the drop.
>Still raging against machines as I chop, slice, cut and paste,
>Steve (an e-trinity fan, btw)
erik g (also an e-trinity fan)
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