Re: Kind of Blah // Jazz Dead?, Nah!!! Not Here!!!

From: Wm. ERROL PACE (wm_errol_pace@hotmail.com)
Date: Sat Apr 07 2001 - 00:35:33 CEST

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    Hey AJers,

    The arguement made for why "Jazz is Dead" is based on criteria that could be
    applied to alot of other genera of music.

    If they say Jazz is dead then they are NOT (Oops!!! my buggy got in from of
    my horse on this one) listening to Cinematic Orchestra's
    -Motion- CD http://www.ninjatune.com and Hell!!! The Re-mix CD ROCKS!!!

    For example we can say that D n B
    is dead for most of the same reasons - lack of
    innovation,predictability....than we listen to P'Taah!.

    If you all like P'taah's -Compressed Light- then you should checkout to
    Cinematic Orchestra's -Motion- CD. I have Brother Stimp to thank for this
    one!!!

      One of the
    arguements presented was that if jazz isin't changing,

    Sometimes things are just time-less. Something sounds just as fresh as they
    did when they were concieved yet something may sound even better today given
    the vibe of the times and example would be Marvin Gaye's "Inner City Blues".
      I heard it today at lunch and I have to say it ROCKS!!! today and it did
    when it came out. Somethings just set a standard and then as platform to
    dive off into the great abyss of sonic abandondment.

    then it must be dead
    or dying, deviating, moving sideways. Well, I think that this prognosis is
    inevitable once we place bounaries on what "Jazz", or any genera for that
    matter, *is*. Once we define what makes jazz, any deviation will be seen
    as a change and there for not necessarily jazz anymore.

    Maybe Death should looked at as a Gateway to another plane of existence? It
    is alive and well in my world!!! Happy Trails!!!

    Semper Motociclismo,

    Pace'

    But the author also uses a linear model of the life and death of music. i
    don;t particularly agree w/ this linear model. I think music evolves more
    like a bush than a line and much like all else in evolutionary terms, a
    change does not necessarily affect the whole creature. There are
    evolutionary signs of Jazz is many forms of music. So, I would not say that
    music that uses electronica, sampling, ect is *not* jazz any more. It's
    Nu-Jazz. I like to think of it more in positive evolutionary terms than in
    negative terms of extinction. It is my belief that all things on this
    planet - animals, humans, life, cells, bacteria, music, theories,
    phenomena....are based on this premise - that which is built up, will be
    broken down, then re-built again.....but that's just - my 2 cents

    joni

    >From: Tristan Ferne <tristanferne@yahoo.co.uk>
    >To: acid-jazz@ucsd.edu
    >Subject: Kind of Blah
    >Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:04:03 +0100 (BST)
    >
    >An article on the future of jazz...
    >
    >http://www.feedmag.com/templates/default.php3?a_id=1682
    >
    >
    >Tristan
    >
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