I definitely agree with Mark here. The original acid jazz bands (and most
were bands, not producers or deejays) made basically modern jazz music. The
difference wasn't so much in the music, but in the attitude, the target
audience and the people making the music. Kinda like this is not your
father's jazz music. Pull out an old Beaujolais Band record or Soulciety
release or a multitude of releases on Tongue N Groove, Talking Loud, Cup Of
Tea, etc and they have as much if not more of a jazz influence than almost
all the nu jazz releases of today. The difference is definitely not as much
in the sound but in who makes it. Where it used to be a lot of live bands a
lot of it now is producers and deejays. However I'm not so sure I credit
Kirk DeGiorgio for this...But then again I don't know who I would credit...
At the end of the day though it's all good. As for some releases that are
REALLY straight up jazz check the releases on Kyoto Jazz Massive's Especial
label. I could give those to my dad!
Dirk van den Heuvel
President/GM, Groove Distribution
"Your Guide To The Underground"
http://www.groovedis.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Turner [mailto:nugroove@pacbell.net]
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 12:43 PM
To: acid-jazz@ucsd.edu
Subject: RE: Nathan! / Jazz
Argo said:
> It's interesting that a lot of the latest "acid jazz" or "nu-jazz" (people
> playing with jazz elements and electronics) has been aiming in
> the direction
> of sounding more like jazz. It seems to me that artists
> responsible for that
> classic acid jazz sound were concerned with creating a new sound very
> distinctive from jazz.
I would disagree with that. The "classic" acid jazz sound, as personified by
the Acid Jazz stable of artists, was very "retro," recalling the funk and
rare groove of the early 70's. That is why, for all intents and purposes,
acid jazz as a genre is now "dead" -- the term is passe. It was a revivalist
movement that has long past its prime. That's not to say there weren't some
talented and forward-thinking people working in that vein, but I don't see
the current scene as evolving from that at all. That was a live band-based
scene in the traditional sense. I see the current "nu-jazz" scene as
evolving out of the lone "bedroom producer" movement, where people started
experimenting with strictly electronic (programmed) music and then slowly
began adding more and more of a "live" feel.
I'd have to credit Kirk Degiorgio as being a real visionary for the current
wave of "nu-jazz". As far as I'm aware, he was one of the first musicians to
successfully integrate techno with jazz, and not have it sound ludicrous.
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Mark Turner
nugroove@pacbell.net
www.jazzadelica.com
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