Re: hip hop / jazz parallels

From: t bird (djt_bird@yahoo.com)
Date: Fri Dec 07 2001 - 03:12:17 CET

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    > Huh? Cuban and brazilian contributions to the
    > evolution of Jazz cannot be
    > considered 'small', even relatively speaking. The
    > same can be said of
    > the brittish input into the evolution of hip-hop.
    > Acid Jazz, Trip-hop,
    > Drum'n'Bass and even 2-step hav been mostly
    > non-American contributions to
    > the continuing development of hip-hop.

    hmm...

    the forms you mention are definitely outgrowths of
    hiphop culture, but like steve was saying about the
    non-u.s. influence on jazz (i.e., that the form had
    been around long before the "outside" influence
    began), it's taken a while for the u.k. forms to
    manifest in the native (i.e., u.s.) hiphop. although
    acid-jazz and d&b have left their imprint on u.s.
    hiphop (acid-jazz in the early to mid 90's, d&b in the
    last 3-5 years) 2-step has yet to leave its mark.
    trip-hop is a little murkier. the instrumental stuff
    by shadow (a u.s. producer) was always viewed by its
    creator as instrumental hiphop--not a new genre, or
    even sub-genre. i always viewed the first massive
    attack album the same way, a different perspective on
    a pre-existing genre.

    -t

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