Re: Ninja Tune/Shadow records cash-in controversy

From: Nathaniel Rahav (nat@rhythmlove.com)
Date: Sat Jan 13 2001 - 03:54:58 CET

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    Ok... I see people's points about Shadow...
    I guess I didnt need Shadow to introduce me to this music because I had
    YOU GUYS & GALS, the ACID JaZZ List :) !!

    Actualy I was going through some records today and came across a
    Shadow release (which I still play actually): DJ Krush's EP that has
    that great track 'Roll & Tumble' - a fat jazz-reggae-hiphop groove with
    an unknown trumpet player, perhaps Toshinori Kondo??

    peace, & remembrance of Martin Luther King,
    Nat

    On Sat, 13 Jan 2001, Harry Marquez wrote:

    > My two cents worth:
    >
    > Instinct = pretty cool leftfield electronic music, decent ambient...
    >
    > Instinct = Shadow
    >
    > Shadow = Cliff Notes on all things downtempo/acid jazz (which can be both
    > good and bad)
    >
    > Shadow = ABSTRAKT WORKSHOP, vol. 1 & 2 = necessary listening for '95-'96
    >
    > Shadow = US debut of DJ Food with RECIPE FOR DISASTER = wonderful
    >
    > Shadow = US debut of other Ninjas like Funki Porcini, 9 Lazy 9, etc. = right
    > on
    >
    > Shadow = Mr. Electric Triangle's KOSMOSIS OF THE HEART = great
    >
    > Shadow = DJ Cam's US debut with MAD BLUNTED JAZZ = UNDERGROUND VIBES - bonus
    > concert disc included on US release = freakin' amazing
    >
    > Shadow = DJ Cam, Shantel, etc. on double 10" vinyl = cool
    >
    > Shadow (1997 or so) = distinctive brown cardboard CD packaging which I liked
    >
    > Shadow (now) = not so progressive as they used to be
    >
    > Shadow (now) = too much repackaging!
    >
    > Shadow (now) = no more brown cardboard!
    >
    > Shadow (now) = nothing exciting lately + controversy (ninja tune & K&D)
    >
    > And that's the math of it. I pretty much dismiss them now as a
    > recycler/licensing label, but I, like Dirk et al have pointed out, never
    > would've gotten the necessary education in the global scale of downtempo &
    > "acid jazz" without their early releases. These latest controversies (the
    > Ninja Tune thing AND the Kruder & Dorfmeister debacle from last year?) just
    > tarnish their slowly fading reputation. My confidence in the label was lost
    > a while ago, so I just don't care too much right now.
    >
    > I just wish I had more of those 10"s in the brown packaging. Those were
    > cool.
    >
    > peace,
    > Ha
    >
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