OK, I haven't actually read any of this thread or its predecessors, so
correct me if I am speaking out of turn ( and I'm sure someone probably
will). If I am incorrect in my assumptions i shall read the previous
messages, but i guess my point is still the same for future reference
I think we should discuss the odd bit of hip-hop on this list as there is
plenty of excellent hip-hop that fits in with the general music taste of
most members of this list.
However do we have to get into boring "this vs that" discussions which are
probably raging on many other lists. It's like the light vs dark d'n'b
discussions; the nu skool breaks vs big beat threads; the beat mathcing vs
tune selection arguments; and my personally pet hate - the CD vs vinyl
debate.
----- Original Message -----
From: <BigKumquat@aol.com>
To: <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
Cc: <charlie@nofuncharlie.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 12:14 AM
Subject: rap versus hip hop (part thirty-eight thousand)
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> In my mind, it works like this:
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> Hip hop is a musical form that emerged in the seventies. It is based on
> taking the instrumental "breaks" from soul and funk records and
continually
> repeating them using two turntables, a technique that dj's in this era
began
> to employ when they realized that the crowd danced the hardest during the
> funky instrumental breaks...so why not keep them going longer?
>
> Generally, hip hop has a BPM that is on the slower side, maybe less than
100,
> although this doesn't have to be true in every case - there was some
killer
> mega-fast hip hop delivered by Ice T and Public Enemy during a period in
the
> late eighties. To me, the quintessential hip hop BPM would be at about
85,
> maybe 90.
>
> Rap, in my view, is hip hop where rapping itself is present: vocals
spoken
> rhythmically, but without obvious tonality. So, rap has to have rapping,
> whereas hip hop could either have rapping or be purely instrumental. Rap
is
> a subset of hip hop. DJ Shadow would be hip hop, but not rap (except on
> those tracks where rappers appear).
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> Another way to look at it: your average mainstream Joe Sixpack knows the
term
> "rap," but may not know the term "hip hop." Hip hop is often the
terminology
> used by people who know a bit about the music, and are using the term as
> evidence that they are "down."
>
> Your mileage may vary.
>
> - fred
>
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