Quite! Anyway MP3 DJing rules! :-)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Haynes [mailto:gvcontact@hotmail.com]
> Sent: 11 August 2001 01:51
> To: Acid Jazz List
> Subject: Re: rap versus hip hop (part thirty-eight thousand)
>
>
> OK, I haven't actually read any of this thread or its predecessors, so
> correct me if I am speaking out of turn ( and I'm sure
> someone probably
> will). If I am incorrect in my assumptions i shall read the previous
> messages, but i guess my point is still the same for future reference
>
> I think we should discuss the odd bit of hip-hop on this list
> as there is
> plenty of excellent hip-hop that fits in with the general
> music taste of
> most members of this list.
>
> However do we have to get into boring "this vs that"
> discussions which are
> probably raging on many other lists. It's like the light vs dark d'n'b
> discussions; the nu skool breaks vs big beat threads; the
> beat mathcing vs
> tune selection arguments; and my personally pet hate - the CD vs vinyl
> debate.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <BigKumquat@aol.com>
> To: <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
> Cc: <charlie@nofuncharlie.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 12:14 AM
> Subject: rap versus hip hop (part thirty-eight thousand)
>
>
> >
> > In my mind, it works like this:
> >
> > Hip hop is a musical form that emerged in the seventies.
> It is based on
> > taking the instrumental "breaks" from soul and funk records and
> continually
> > repeating them using two turntables, a technique that dj's
> in this era
> began
> > to employ when they realized that the crowd danced the
> hardest during the
> > funky instrumental breaks...so why not keep them going longer?
> >
> > Generally, hip hop has a BPM that is on the slower side,
> maybe less than
> 100,
> > although this doesn't have to be true in every case - there was some
> killer
> > mega-fast hip hop delivered by Ice T and Public Enemy
> during a period in
> the
> > late eighties. To me, the quintessential hip hop BPM would
> be at about
> 85,
> > maybe 90.
> >
> > Rap, in my view, is hip hop where rapping itself is present: vocals
> spoken
> > rhythmically, but without obvious tonality. So, rap has to
> have rapping,
> > whereas hip hop could either have rapping or be purely
> instrumental. Rap
> is
> > a subset of hip hop. DJ Shadow would be hip hop, but not
> rap (except on
> > those tracks where rappers appear).
> >
> > Another way to look at it: your average mainstream Joe
> Sixpack knows the
> term
> > "rap," but may not know the term "hip hop." Hip hop is often the
> terminology
> > used by people who know a bit about the music, and are
> using the term as
> > evidence that they are "down."
> >
> > Your mileage may vary.
> >
> > - fred
> >
> > P.S. Anyone want a FREE kumquat cd? If so, check out:
> >
> > http://nofuncharlie.com/kumquat
> >
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