El Raymondo,
it appears that we agree on this topic! The lack of any suitable and easy to pronounce name is, quite frankly (and Georgely and Gretaly!) a bonus for the music we all seem to love so much. Of all the genres and sub-genres that I have come across here things like 2-step, real easy to say but kind of blah as music in my humble opinion, (nah, not so humble!), but i happen to love it that so much of what i have come across here does not fall into any easy descriptive realm except that it's good, or BAAAAAAAD or sumthin like that. Yeah, please give me great beats, intricate rhythms, sensual moods, unusual samples, twitchy turntablisms, over the top basslines, enduring arrangements, sheer danceability, breaks and makes, sweet segues and some outstanding vocalistics and i am one happy camper, call it whatever you want to if you feel compelled to go beyond the sobriquet acid-jazz, but i just want more of it, unclassifiable or not.
so, gang, what are the three elements of any piece of music that you hear that make you gravitate toward that music? for me they are:
1/. a really good bassline and bottom end (modern music floats on the bassline for me!)
2/. tight rhythms and beats, either well-played or at least imaginatively programmed)
3/. interesting arrangements.
how about you, what do you listen for?
leslie/The Power of Sound
----- Original Message -----
From: Raymond,EL
To: 'Leslie N. Shill' ; acid
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 4:07 PM
Subject: differance
hey kids!
I've been watching this thread with amusement.. my fave so far is 'ambient speed core???' Giggle.
But seriously, why are we sitting here thinking up names when meanwhile so many AJ djs make a point of saying that their music transcends definition? I'm thinking of one DJ Kicks cover that pontificates on how Kicks, in his quest to confuse boundaries and overturn expectations, deliberately tries to make music that cannot be classified. & an old sample on a DJ Shadow song with a clip of an interviewer pressing shadow to define his music and finally, he comes up with something preposterously meaningless like 'electronic metal hip-hop experimental countrified funk' or some shit like that. Or how about the rhetoric surrounding coldcuts new weirdo digitizing mixing thingamabob.. something about how they are constantly seeking to transform the nature of authorship and DJ'ing, and this is their latest venture. Those are the only three specific (though vaguely described) examples I can think of, but I know theres more.
So, yeah, AJ does have some general characteristics, and some aspects of it are stable and definable, but fundamentally? I think the spirit of AJ is permeable, shape-shifting, contradictory, surprising... all things good and edgy and challenging and flucuating. Trying to define what we listen to is an excercise in humour.. for listeners sake, I hope it never ends.
; D
- E
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-----Original Message-----
From: Leslie N. Shill [mailto:icehouse@redshift.com]
Sent: 01 March 2001 18:48
To: acid
Subject: genre calling
My dear friends and music lovers, the harder we try to name what we love musically, the further we get from anything real and the closer we get to institutional tagging (UGGGH and BLECH!) Acid Jazz works pretty well for me and the information I derive from this list and the various contributors (you know who you are!) is very valuable to me and it goes well beyond any wordy definition, people seem to know what they like and, more importantly, what is GOOD and that makes the difference not the name of it. While not having a clear tag might make things harder to find in a record store, just acid jazz is really fine as far as I am concerned! A lot of the best music I have connected to via this list is beyond specific definition anyway and I kinda like it that way!
leslie/The Power of Sound
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