delsin is a small outfit and the owner/founder also releases stuff on
it.....it's a good label...dunno how it goes with other labels though..
i don't think the people who downloaded your 12"es would have bought those
otherwise..maybe they couldn't get it or they didn't have the money for it..
Olaf
----- Original Message -----
From: B. Young <bjy07@hotmail.com>
To: <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: Napster
> I too have felt guilty at times for using Napster. I think I personally
> made a mistake some months ago when I shared a lot of the vinyl that I had
> recorded onto my computer for my cd's. I got all these people downloading
> dope ass 12"s and spreading them all over Napster (I didn't let it go on
too
> long, but a good dozen or so bomb ass vinyl only tracks got away for
free).
> I know for a fact these songs weren't on Napster previously because I'd
been
> searching for them before I bought them and when I see them now, its the
> same track length. I think it would have been ok had the songs been only
2
> or 3 minute samples. Now, I am selective about what 12"s I share and
often
> will only put a few minutes of the track.
>
> Sometimes I wonder if people really do buy the stuff they download. I've
> downloaded a few hundred songs over the last year or so and most of it has
> been stuff that I cant find (old/rare dance music, rare jazz, funk, and
> soul, and also cd's I'd lost over the years). I am currently keeping an
eye
> out for the majority of the mp3's I have and can honestly say that I buy
> plenty of music. Enough of making myself feel like it's ok. My thing is,
I
> know how people are, and know people who don't buy shit and download and
> make loads of cd's. And i know a lot of people who don't have a computer,
> but if they did, wouldn't hesitate to download everything they could. And
I
> dont think that's an assault on their character, its like damn... if
> somebody is passing out free cd's of your favorite artists are you going
to
> take them? It is true that anybody who is deeply serious about their music
> WILL buy the music and give back to the artists, however, think about this
> (it's been said a thousand times)... When you buy a cd for 13 to 16
dollars
> and up, how much of that actually goes to the artist you want to support?
> From what I hear, very little. Maybe a dollar at most. And the rest??? I
> hate to think about it. Is this different for smaller labels? Do they get
> all that money. For example if I buy a cd from Delsin for example, do the
> owners and artist get most of the money after the record store takes its
> cut?
>
> Later,
> Beau.
>
>
> >From: "Dave Haynes" <gvcontact@hotmail.com>
> >To: acid-jazz@ucsd.edu
> >Subject: Napster
> >Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:57:24 -0000
> >
> >I was wondering what everybody's views were on Napster. I have been using
> >it
> >for several months. I fell a bit guilty about it because I know I'm
ripping
> >off other people copyright. It is so useful though. If someone mentions a
> >tune on the list that I haven't checked out, I can just pop onto Napster,
> >download it and give it a listen. Then I can also see what else that
artist
> >has done. Although not everything is on there especially vinyl only
> >releases
> >- I can get most of the stuf that I want.
> >
> >The thing is though that lots of people are vehemntly against this. But
> >from
> >my own personal experience Napster allows me to preview tracks I may
never
> >have heard of. I may not pay for it then but I'd say about 70% of the
time
> >I
> >then go onto buy the track on vinyl cos I want to play it out. I'll also
go
> >and buy more stuff from that artist which I may never have even been
aware
> >of before.
> >
> >I'm actually doing a research project on the whole area of digital music
> >and
> >was wondering what sort of views the acid jazz community had ont the
> >subject.
> >
> >How many people are using? How many are against?
> >How many artists on this list mind that there stuff could be getting
> >downloaded without royalties being paid?
> >
> >Any thoughts?
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