mastering for vinyl or digital media are both very specialised
professions.....currently with all the software and hardware tools available
for free or cheap everyone is loosing the distinction between a lot of
different activities that make a record: programming, composing,
engineering, mastering.......these are all different things with different
demands....
i think that IF you want to spread your demo's around you're much better of
by either investing in mastering software/hardware for CD's and burning a
CD-R and spreading this around (if the DJ's really like the track they will
prolly play it, most venues have 1 or 2 CD-players with pitch etc)....
mastering (for vinyl but also for CD's) and more specific knowing how to
control (and not break!) the cutter is something that really needs a lot of
experience....so i don't think this vestax cutter has a lot of use...i am
curious what happens when the first few people break the cutter and start
complaining on the internet, or give a really BADLY mastered and cut acetate
to DJ's who try to play it but the needle keeps on jumping ;)
there are some really nice free plugins available (endorphin, THD etc) that
can really warm up a digital recording and make it really sound nice, even
on CD-R..it's the smarter, cheaper and more chance on better sound option
imho
Olaf
----- Original Message -----
From: Jason Jasberto Batog <jasbat@home.com>
To: Acid Jazz Mailing List <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: Forget that new car....
> > HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA.....talk about a step BACKWARDS....now, you can't even
> > TOUCH the vinyl!! :)
> > It looks like one of the very first laserdisc players, doesn't it? I
wonder
> > how easy it is to backcue...I'm thinking it's for audiophiles, not
> > DJs...what is even more amusing is that this beast is more expensive
than
> > Vestax's new vinylcutter, which really promises to revolutionize the
> > industry...if you haven't seen it, check it out:
> > http://www.vestax.com.au/products/vrx2000.htm
>
> I've seen that laser record player before at this demonstration show
awhile
> back at a show and it sounds really good, no joke! It's the perfect
player
> for audiophiles but the only problem is that you have to make sure your
> record is positively clean (use that professional machine). No vinyl
wear,
> sweet. That's always been a problem for me with needles (especially with
> all the vague descriptions salespeople give)...
>
> That Vestax cutter, I'm sort of debating about that one. Has anybody
heard
> a record cut from it? Mastering, pre-mastering and audio compressing are
> vital and key elements to produce good sounding vinyl. Can this machine
> replicate that? Unfortunately it can't, all it has is just a signal
control
> which is helpful but probably not by much. Does anybody know if there is
> control for groove width-spacing and speed control (45 RPM vs 33 RPM)?
>
> As well people have to realise that they are going to screw up making
vinyl
> badly because I know sometimes go into the red and I know with
manufacturing
> vinyl, YOU CAN'T GO INTO THE RED. It has to be compressed and mastered
> properly so it doesn't do that and I think this is going to be a problem
for
> a lot of people that try to make these records.
>
> What's the texture like for these discs to etch? Are they like an
acetate?
> How fine is the cut? If these sound like acetates, the quality is going
to
> be very bad. Anybody notice that acetates sound like garbage? I made one
> for this track my friend made and it sounded like CRAP. Tons of audible
> noise and it had a very light but noticable buzz sound going through the
> whole thing (most likely a programmer's error) and as it got closer to the
> end, it was so fuzzy. We even got the thing printed at 45RPM so get the
> best sound quality... And on top of that, the track was only six minutes
> long. $60US later for the one sided 10" acetate that was later broken and
> hucked into the garbage.
>
> PS: I have a vision and that vision includes many bootlegs being made by
> this machine! This machine will probably make a lot of labels both
> respectively happy (make vinyl for your key DJs ahead of time) and mad
> (seeing unreleased tracks that were CD-r'ed (or even rare groove items)
now
> on walls in vinyl format because of the anonymity factor)...
>
> What's everybody's opinion on this?
>
> JJB/opSN
>
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