From: Mark Allerton (mark@warmspot.compulink.co.uk)
Date: Wed Dec 18 2002 - 23:22:43 CET
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As I pointed out privately, the Verve thing was in reference to your
comments about "Sounds From The Verve Hi-Fi" which is not a remix comp.
Stimp wrote:
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Stimp" <stimp@aei.ca>
>To: "Mark Allerton" <mark@warmspot.compulink.co.uk>
>Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:27 PM
>Subject: Re: [acid-jazz] Best/Worst/merely Blah of 2002
>
>
>
>
>>Mark, you obviously missed the point entirely. Considering your dumbass
>>reply to my post, you clearly cannot differentiate between a remix which
>>actually adds something new and interesting, and one which does nothing
>>significant to enhance the original track. Damn those idiot-boy listees
>>
>>
>who
>
>
>>don't bother understanding the context of a post before getting needlessly
>>sarcastic! Do me a favor, if you wanna start a war of words with me, do
>>
>>
>it
>
>
>>privately.
>>
>>Stimp
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Mark Allerton" <mark@warmspot.compulink.co.uk>
>>To: <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
>>Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 5:13 AM
>>Subject: Re: [acid-jazz] Best/Worst/merely Blah of 2002
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>I can imagine your shock... listening to an album by a stale formulaic
>>>rock band, only to discover it's full of stale formulaic rock, buying a
>>>compilation of old Verve tracks only to discover it's full of old Verve
>>>tracks, or buying a five year old Fila Brazilia LP only to discover it
>>>sounds a bit 90s. Damn those evil record companies!
>>>
>>>So I will let your comments about "Cookie" slide - you are clearly
>>>suffering from PTSD. Get well soon!
>>>
>>>On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 08:44 PM, Stimp wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ok, so here's my list for 2002. What I did is looked thru my
>>>>collection and
>>>>dug out everything I bought, within the last 12 months, with a 2002
>>>>release
>>>>date.
>>>>
>>>>Here's my best
>>>>-Johnny Cash: American IV: The Man Comes Around (the best of the
>>>>batch, imo)
>>>>-Mr. Scruff: Trouser Jazz
>>>>-Herbert: Secondhand Sounds
>>>>-DJ Chebb i Sabbah: Krishna Lila (AMAZING!!!)
>>>>-Antibalas: Talkatif
>>>>-Melvins + Fantomas: Millenium Monsterwork
>>>>-Below The Sea: Les Arbres Depayseront D'avantage (fans of Godspeed
>>>>
>>>>
>You
>
>
>>>>Black Emperor! and Mogwai will love this)
>>>>-Iannis Xenakis: Persepolis + Remixes (Persepolis is absolutely
>>>>essential,
>>>>while the remixes are merely lukewarm to bad)
>>>>-Suba: Tributo
>>>>-Sigur Ros: ( )
>>>>-Polmo Polpo: The Science Of Breath (an ambient electronic must-have)
>>>>-Manu Chao: Radio Bemba
>>>>-Cinematic Orchestra: Every Day (This is some seriously fresh shit.
>>>>Totally
>>>>original and fresh. Already looking forward to their next one!)
>>>>-Godspeed You Black Emperor: Yanqui U.X.O. (Very similar to their
>>>>earlier
>>>>stuff, but so damn grandiose in scale and GOOD!)
>>>>-NIN: And All That Could Have Been
>>>>-Blackalicious: Phrenology
>>>>-Hank Williams III: Lovesick, Broke And Driftin' (WOW!!! Far better
>>>>than
>>>>his dad, and just as good as ol' granddad!)
>>>>-Tom Waits: Alice
>>>>-Merzbow: Amlux
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Now, for the worst:
>>>>-Melvins: Hostile Ambient Takeover
>>>>-Verve Remixed: (It's been done SO MANY BLOODY TIMES!!!!)
>>>>-Rudy Ray Moore: 21st Century Dolemite (unfunny, for the most part,
>>>>mixed in
>>>>with bad songs and WAY too much use of the word Motherfucker)
>>>>-John Zorn: IAO (Sounds like any one of ten albums he's already put
>>>>out, and
>>>>far from essential)
>>>>-Pearl Jam: Riot Act (If you own any of their first 3 records, you
>>>>already
>>>>know what to expect. Stale formulaic rock)
>>>>-John Zorn/Mike Patton/Ikue Mori: Hemophiliac (At fifty bucks a crack,
>>>>this
>>>>was a complete ripoff. It's autographed by all three and limited to
>>>>2500
>>>>copies, but that's really the only thing worth mentioning here. It's
>>>>not
>>>>bad, but it ain't good either)
>>>>-Me'Shell Ndge'Ocello: Cookie: the Anthropological Mixtape (Sounds
>>>>
>>>>
>like
>
>
>>>>crossover Missy Elliot-ish nonsense at times. Way too slick-sounding,
>>>>not
>>>>nearly as organic and gut-bucket funky as everything that came before
>>>>it)
>>>>-Thievery Corporation: Sounds From The Verve Hi-Fi (They've added
>>>>ABSOLUTELY
>>>>NOTHING to these Verve tracks!! Owning alot of the original albums
>>>>which
>>>>are featured here, this cd was a complete waste of money for me. Have
>>>>your
>>>>buddy burn you a cd and you'll get exactly the same thing.)
>>>>-Bugge Wesseltoft: Out Here In There
>>>>-Nils Petter Molvaer: NP3 (VERY disappointed in this one. Lacks the
>>>>haunting, dense production of his previous 2 releases, and his trumpet
>>>>playing didn't grab me nearly as much this time around)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Finally, the so-so, mostly because it's been done before:
>>>>
>>>>-Amon Tobin: Out From Out Where
>>>>-Peace Orchestra: Reset
>>>>-Herbaliser: Something Wicked This Way Comes
>>>>-Boards Of Canada: Geogaddi
>>>>-Fila Brazilia: Maim That Tune
>>>>-Stanton Moore: Flying The Coop (not nearly as good as "All Kooked
>>>>Out")
>>>>-Tom Waits: Blood Money (I NEVER thought I'd find a Tom Waits album
>>>>merely
>>>>so-so. Surprise)
>>>>-V/A: Afrotronic 2 (sounds like every other comp. Save your money)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Your turn,
>>>>
>>>>Stimp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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As I pointed out privately, the Verve thing was in reference to your
comments about "Sounds From The Verve Hi-Fi" which is not a remix comp.<br>
<br>
Stimp wrote:<br>
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cite="mid005601c2a6c5$fc451870$e742fea9@userihzzunywud">
<pre wrap="">----- Original Message -----
From: "Stimp" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:stimp@aei.ca"><stimp@aei.ca></a>
To: "Mark Allerton" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mark@warmspot.compulink.co.uk"><mark@warmspot.compulink.co.uk></a>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [acid-jazz] Best/Worst/merely Blah of 2002
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Mark, you obviously missed the point entirely. Considering your dumbass
reply to my post, you clearly cannot differentiate between a remix which
actually adds something new and interesting, and one which does nothing
significant to enhance the original track. Damn those idiot-boy listees
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->who
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">don't bother understanding the context of a post before getting needlessly
sarcastic! Do me a favor, if you wanna start a war of words with me, do
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->it
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">privately.
Stimp
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Allerton" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mark@warmspot.compulink.co.uk"><mark@warmspot.compulink.co.uk></a>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:acid-jazz@ucsd.edu"><acid-jazz@ucsd.edu></a>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 5:13 AM
Subject: Re: [acid-jazz] Best/Worst/merely Blah of 2002
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">I can imagine your shock... listening to an album by a stale formulaic
rock band, only to discover it's full of stale formulaic rock, buying a
compilation of old Verve tracks only to discover it's full of old Verve
tracks, or buying a five year old Fila Brazilia LP only to discover it
sounds a bit 90s. Damn those evil record companies!
So I will let your comments about "Cookie" slide - you are clearly
suffering from PTSD. Get well soon!
On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 08:44 PM, Stimp wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Ok, so here's my list for 2002. What I did is looked thru my
collection and
dug out everything I bought, within the last 12 months, with a 2002
release
date.
Here's my best
-Johnny Cash: American IV: The Man Comes Around (the best of the
batch, imo)
-Mr. Scruff: Trouser Jazz
-Herbert: Secondhand Sounds
-DJ Chebb i Sabbah: Krishna Lila (AMAZING!!!)
-Antibalas: Talkatif
-Melvins + Fantomas: Millenium Monsterwork
-Below The Sea: Les Arbres Depayseront D'avantage (fans of Godspeed
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->You
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Black Emperor! and Mogwai will love this)
-Iannis Xenakis: Persepolis + Remixes (Persepolis is absolutely
essential,
while the remixes are merely lukewarm to bad)
-Suba: Tributo
-Sigur Ros: ( )
-Polmo Polpo: The Science Of Breath (an ambient electronic must-have)
-Manu Chao: Radio Bemba
-Cinematic Orchestra: Every Day (This is some seriously fresh shit.
Totally
original and fresh. Already looking forward to their next one!)
-Godspeed You Black Emperor: Yanqui U.X.O. (Very similar to their
earlier
stuff, but so damn grandiose in scale and GOOD!)
-NIN: And All That Could Have Been
-Blackalicious: Phrenology
-Hank Williams III: Lovesick, Broke And Driftin' (WOW!!! Far better
than
his dad, and just as good as ol' granddad!)
-Tom Waits: Alice
-Merzbow: Amlux
Now, for the worst:
-Melvins: Hostile Ambient Takeover
-Verve Remixed: (It's been done SO MANY BLOODY TIMES!!!!)
-Rudy Ray Moore: 21st Century Dolemite (unfunny, for the most part,
mixed in
with bad songs and WAY too much use of the word Motherfucker)
-John Zorn: IAO (Sounds like any one of ten albums he's already put
out, and
far from essential)
-Pearl Jam: Riot Act (If you own any of their first 3 records, you
already
know what to expect. Stale formulaic rock)
-John Zorn/Mike Patton/Ikue Mori: Hemophiliac (At fifty bucks a crack,
this
was a complete ripoff. It's autographed by all three and limited to
2500
copies, but that's really the only thing worth mentioning here. It's
not
bad, but it ain't good either)
-Me'Shell Ndge'Ocello: Cookie: the Anthropological Mixtape (Sounds
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->like
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">crossover Missy Elliot-ish nonsense at times. Way too slick-sounding,
not
nearly as organic and gut-bucket funky as everything that came before
it)
-Thievery Corporation: Sounds From The Verve Hi-Fi (They've added
ABSOLUTELY
NOTHING to these Verve tracks!! Owning alot of the original albums
which
are featured here, this cd was a complete waste of money for me. Have
your
buddy burn you a cd and you'll get exactly the same thing.)
-Bugge Wesseltoft: Out Here In There
-Nils Petter Molvaer: NP3 (VERY disappointed in this one. Lacks the
haunting, dense production of his previous 2 releases, and his trumpet
playing didn't grab me nearly as much this time around)
Finally, the so-so, mostly because it's been done before:
-Amon Tobin: Out From Out Where
-Peace Orchestra: Reset
-Herbaliser: Something Wicked This Way Comes
-Boards Of Canada: Geogaddi
-Fila Brazilia: Maim That Tune
-Stanton Moore: Flying The Coop (not nearly as good as "All Kooked
Out")
-Tom Waits: Blood Money (I NEVER thought I'd find a Tom Waits album
merely
so-so. Surprise)
-V/A: Afrotronic 2 (sounds like every other comp. Save your money)
Your turn,
Stimp
</pre>
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<pre wrap="">
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->
</pre>
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