Re: the singer!!!

From: Daniel Carlsson (myggovich@telia.com)
Date: Sat Feb 09 2002 - 02:26:38 CET

  • Next message: leslie shill: "Re: the singer!!!"

    well,,, why don't you people just shut up on this subject. i'm tired of it now!!!

    Rick Torres wrote:

    > Hi Leslie,
    >
    > Very well spoken, the fact is , yes I am thrilled to be working with this
    > very talented and creative person (Jailyn) and am chomping at the bit to
    > start releasing new stuff. She is a breath of fresh air to write with, in
    > the studio she is a hardworker, she is extremely self motivated, and a joy
    > to work with, a real team player type. We (Kiran and I) have been conducting
    > auditions for quite a while to find a person who had the kind of voice and
    > attitude we were looking for. we auditioned well over 40 singers for the
    > job, and while most everyone was very talented, Jailyn had a really fresh
    > approach to her writing and her vocal style was unique without being
    > distracting. She also is familiar with the industry side of things and is
    > not easily affected by the praise or criticisms of the publicity machine,
    > which is a big plus (I think she'll keep her head on her shoulders ,and of a
    > normal size, when everyone around is telling her she is perfect, love ya
    > babe.. it is "babe" isn't it?) as for the music, seeing as how I am very
    > attatched to it, I'll leave it to you all to give me your thoughts, (as I am
    > always in love with the music I'm involved with, my descriptions would be
    > unfairly biased)
    > rest assured as soon as I am able, I will post a link to the new stuff here.
    >
    > Thanks for your patience
    > Rick Torres
    > ----------
    > >From: leslie shill <icehouse@redshift.com>
    > >To: Rick Torres <sblrocks@pacbell.net>
    > >Cc: acid <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
    > >Subject: Re: the singer!!!
    > >Date: Thu, Feb 7, 2002, 7:59 PM
    > >
    >
    > > Rick,
    > >
    > > after having read your retort and having considered it for what it is worth,
    > > I feel I have to respond in some fashion. Your assumption that I was "on"
    > > something, even coffee is really silly. One of the reasons I have enjoyed
    > > this list over the years is that there are interesting people who belong to
    > > it and they generally seem to have above-average amounts of thought power,
    > > even when they are expressing ideas and concepts that I find to be not to my
    > > liking I still take in what is said and expressed because it comes from a
    > > space that is in the love of the music! Quite frankly, your calling me
    > > shallow assumes more than I care to accept, I did look at the photo of your
    > > singer, mainly because I was interested to see whether you qualified the
    > > display or not and you definitely did not. Yes, your singer is an attractive
    > > woman but my comments were not made because or in spite of that and I was
    > > not really upset at your not being a bit of an idiot, not a complete one
    > > mind you, just a bit of a one! If you had said just 25 words on what an
    > > incredible singer she was, or how much you loved her or are attracted to her
    > > or how she fits into the sound of the band, that would have made all the
    > > difference in the world but what you said really dissed her and the minds of
    > > the people who belong to this group because I think there is some integrity
    > > in this group of people and they are unquestionably devoted and deeply into
    > > the music, yes, it's the music stupid, the music! That you could be enamored
    > > of your singer is understandable and acceptable but that you chose to
    > > portray her the way that you did is not. Still, it was your choice and I
    > > think you found that the people on this list do not accept the point of view
    > > you put forward and implied to be the case. It is really a priority to show
    > > all of you since she is now a member of your band and apparently a good
    > > singer so a clip of her voice with the band would have made any words
    > > redundant. Now you are probably foaming at the mouth a little but chill out
    > > dude, once people came at you about this photograph and your comment, if you
    > > had just acknowledged what they said instead of getting pissy, then I think
    > > that would have been a lot better. Sadly for you, there are people like me
    > > who like to write and throw things around. Even now you have chosen not to
    > > acknowledge this woman's talent and instead you have chosen to be defensive
    > > about what you did and said! Please tell us now, what kind of voice does she
    > > have, why did you choose her (beyond her looks!) and how will she contribute
    > > to the band. It isn't easy to find good singers but there are many pretty
    > > faces in any given crowd if that is what grabs you and the road to musical
    > > nirvana is littered with them. I understand your ebullience at finding a
    > > good singer, I do not understand your defensiveness at being put on the
    > > spot. I happen to think this is a good point to begin a thread about finding
    > > and working with other people, men and women, the good, the bad and the
    > > uuuuuuugly (whatever that means!) but now it is up to you to play it out in
    > > a positive way.
    > >
    > > your move?
    > >
    > > the ls.dj leslie/The Power of Sound
    > > ----- Original Message -----
    > > From: "Rick Torres" <sblrocks@pacbell.net>
    > > To: <icehouse@redshift.com>
    > > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 2:43 PM
    > > Subject: Re: the singer!!!
    > >
    > >
    > >> Seeing as how there are tons of photos of the rest of the group already in
    > >> circulation, I didn't think it was a big priority to show photo's of the
    > >> rest of us... this in mind, are you upset only because she is attractive?
    > >> If you ask me, that is just a little shallow.
    > >>
    > >> ----------
    > >> >From: icehouse@redshift.com
    > >> >To: acid-jazz@ucsd.edu
    > >> >Subject: the singer!!!
    > >> >Date: Thu, Feb 7, 2002, 4:26 PM
    > >> >
    > >>
    > >> > Well, you got what you deserved and asked for by posting this picture
    > >> > with the inane comment that she can sing as well, not terribly
    > >> > complimentary to the woman concerned! I would love to read her comment
    > > on
    > >> > what has been said here. By the way, what does your bass player look
    > > like
    > >> > or is the image less important because it's a man? This is a verbal and
    > >> > aware group, post pictures and silly comments at your peril!
    > >> >
    > >> > leslie/The Power of Sound
    > >> >
    > >> > PS WCYPMP?
    > >> >
    > >> > --
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    > >> >
    > >>
    > >



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