moRe: [acid-jazz] Is true art dead?

From: t-bird (djtbird1@yahoo.com)
Date: Sun Oct 13 2002 - 21:15:41 CEST

  • Next message: Steven Catanzaro: "Re: [acid-jazz] Is true art dead?"

    > When Beethoven premiered his 7th symphony, and got
    > finished conducting the
    > second movement, the crowd applauded wildly.
    >
    > What did Beethoven do? Scowl at the crowd like many
    > modern day classical
    > artists are known to have done? Heck no. He turned
    > around, bowed graciously,
    > and repeated the second movement over again from the
    > beginning! The crowd
    > went wild!

    is this possibly the first "re-wind"???
     
    > MEMO to classical musicians. If you want people to
    > start coming back to your
    > concerts... a) compose some new music that people
    > actually like,

    the whole point of doing "art music" is you're not
    supposed to be fettered by popular taste. it should
    be about moving the form forward. you can never
    compose in a vacuum, so what is popular in music will
    always be a factor in what you write, whether you are
    moving toward the right (i.e., what is popular) or
    reacting against it. if you're trying to write
    something that will be played on hit radio, this is
    the wrong arena. the goal is to write something that
    will be considered "great" 100-200 years from now, and
    *hopefully* also during your lifetime...

    > and b) when
    > they start to respond with applause, don't glare at
    > them like they're rubes
    > and idiots...

    this i wholeheartedly agree with. it's also one of
    the reasons that i don't like jazz venues like "jazz
    bakery" in los angeles. this place is set up like a
    concert hall, and while i appreciate that the owner is
    trying to place jazz on the same level with
    "classical" music (i agree that it is just as
    "great"), it fosters a certain "behavior" that i think
    doesn't work toward the full appreciation of the
    music. people should feel free to talk, ask
    questions, and comment to the people they are with at
    the show--how are they supposed to learn to understand
    the music? sure, you can talk about it later, but
    there's so many important things that need to be
    addressed when they happen so that full understanding
    can come about them (e.g., quotations of other musical
    pieces, time signature changes). on the other hand,
    be considerate and don't do all of this LOUDLY!!
    <stepping down from soapbox>
    later,

    -t

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