From: Stimp (stimp_at_aei.ca)
Date: 2003-02-03 07:11:08
Funny, the choices on this list had me quite puzzled as well, especially the jazz stuff. I mean, if I had to choose one essential Miles record, it definitely wouldn't be Panthalassa (although I like it). I'd think that "In A Silent Way" or "Bitches Brew" is far more essential fusion-era Miles. Ditto for Monk. How 'bout "Brilliant Corners"? Roland Kirk? "We Free Kings" A greatest hits comp for Mingus? I'd certainly think that "Mingus Ah-Um" qualifies as one of the greatest jazz recordings of the era.
Personally, I don't think that "Best Of" packages should ever qualify for "essentials" lists. I mean, how is it even possible to compile a Best of for Miles, Trane, Monk, etc...? Given the wide scope of music that this essentials list covers, I just mentioned the jazz, but I'd say that the same could be said for the choices in the Reggae, Hip Hop, Metal, etc categories. It just seems like the record collection from which this list is being compiled is missing some VERY essential selections. Big Up for having compiled it, though. Troll put his ass on the line and sparked a great thread. I much prefer that to having no definite opinion about a topic that we're all obviously very passionate about.
Stimp
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From: Dan
To: Acid-Jazz Listserve
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 9:48 PM
Subject: RE: [acid-jazz] Trolls 100 Essentials
I'm not sure what criteria determined this particular top 100, but it seems odd that certain records, particular in the first sections, are 'essential'. Thievery Corporation as essential? Perhaps to some, but I simply cannot imagine Thievery Corp ever occupying the same hallowed ground as some of the other folks mentioned. These lists are of course entirely dependant on your reference point (i.e. essential to what?) but some inclusions are a bit much. Weather Report? Return To Forever? There are dozens and dozens of better fusion groups, granted none so utterly mainstream. For example, I've recently been enjoying Hiromasa Suzuki's 'Skip Step Colgen' LP. Now that is fusion done properly.
Dan
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From: David Spear [mailto:troll95_at_attbi.com]
Sent: February 1, 2003 12:47 PM
To: acid-jazz_at_ucsd.edu
Subject: [acid-jazz] Trolls 100 Essentials
Here is a list I thought you would all enjoy, please send me yours. Thanks, Dave
Trolls 100 Essentials
Jazz / Acid / Fusion:
Rahsaan Roland Kirk - Bright Moments
DJ Greyboy - Mastered the Art
Madlib - The Crates
Peanut Butter Wolf - Jukebox 45's
Sun Ra - Space Is the Place
Kid Koala - Karpal Tunnel Syndrome
Thievery Corp - Sounds From The Thievery Hi-Fi
Tosca - Suzuki
TJ Kirk - If 4 Was 1
Miles Davis - Panthalassa
Herbie Hancock - Headhunters
Joshua Redman - Elastic
Jaco Pastorius - The Birthday Concert
Wes Montgomery - Full House
Erik Truffaz - The Dawn
Medeski, Martin, & Wood - Shack Man
John Scofield - A Go Go
DJ Cam - Mad Blunted Jazz
Weather Report - 8:30
Charlie Hunter - Natty Dread
Chick Corea - Return to Forever
Yaya3 - Yaya3
Thelonius Monk - Live At the It Club
Charles Mingus - Anthology
Stanton Moore - ALl Kooked Out
DJ Krush - Code 4109
Orb - Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld
Kruder & Dorfmeister - Sessions
DJ Shadow & Cut Chemist - Brainfreeze
Jazzanova - The Remixes
VA - Xen Cuts
Gilles Peterson - Worldwide
Mojo Club Dancehall Jazz Series Vol.1-11
LTJ Bukem - Earth Series Vol#1-6
Reggae:
Steel Pulse - True Democracy
Don Carlos - Day to Day Living
Meditations - Deeper Roots (Best Of..)
Finley Quaye - Maverick A Strike
Asian Dub Foundation - Community Music
Anthony B - So Many Things
Sizzla - Praise Ye Jah
Buju Banton - Ultimate Collection
Capleton - I-Testament
Gregory Issacs - Reggae Greats
VA - Reggae Greats for DJ's
Bob Marley - Babylon By Bus
Culture - International Herb
Black Uhuru - Sinsemilla
Burning Spear - Hail H.I.M.
Israel Vibration - Strength of My Life
Mad Professor - Psychedelic Dub
Lee 'Scratch' Perry - From My Secret Laboratory
Damian Marley - Mr. Marley
Third World - Reggae Greats
Linton Kwesi Johnson - Bass Culture
Dr Israel - Inna City Pressure
Macka B - Peace Cup
Augustus Pablo - Original Rockers
Hip-Hop:
Poor Righteous Teachers - Pure Poverty
De La Soul - 3 Feet High & Rising
Tribe Called Quest - Low End Theory
Digible Planets - Reachin'
The Pharcyde - The Bizarre Ride II
The Roots - Organix
Boogiemonsters - Riders of the Storm
Outkast - Southernplayalisticadillacmusic
Black Sheep - A Wolf in Sheeps Clothing
Funkdoobiest - Which Doobie U B?
Brand Nubian - One For All
Alphabet Soup - Layin' Low In The Cut
Atmosphere - God Loves Ugly
Roots Manuva - Run Come Save Me
Greenhouse Effect - Up To Speed
Jurassic 5 - Quality Control
Mountain Brothers - Self Vol#1
Master P - Ghetto D
Total Devastation - Total Devastation
Handsome Boy Modeling School - So How's Your Girl
Rock / Afro / Intl:
Billy Cobham - Solarization
2 Skinnee J's - Super Mercado
Funkadelic / Parliament - Maggot Brain
Jimi Hendrix - Band of Gypsys
Sublime - Second Hand Smoke
Mr Bungle - Mr Bungle
Grateful Dead - Mars Hotel
Frank Zappa - Apostrophe
Black Sabbath - We Sold Our Souls For Rock & Roll
Santana - Lotus
Earth, Wind, & Fire - The Best of, Vol.1
Peter Gabriel - From Us
Ben Harper - Live From Mars
Primus - Pork Soda
Ween - Chocolate & Cheese
Howard Wales & Jerry Garcia - Hooteroll
Stevie Wonder - Innervisions
Fela Kuti - VIP
Bela Fleck - Live Art
David Grisman - DGQ 20
Leo Kottke - Leo Live
Diga Rhythm Band - DIGA
Ozomatli – Ozomatli