From: Christopher Grass (bluesjumper_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 2003-06-23 22:23:36
I see someone has a case of the Mondays!
I wouldn't go so far as saying that their talents are "suspect", but again,
I wouldn't expect any real dynamic type of show, either. The Cinematic
Orchestra have always been more of a "classical jazz" group than a
"performance jazz" group; to me, performing background music for films has
always been the first thing I think of when I listen to them...and that's
not a bad thing. I'm surprised they haven't reworked their live show into
something a little more "live", kinda like the Quantic Soul Orchestra.
Sure, I like the Quantic albums, but they wouldn't blow anyone away in
concert. Interesting points, though.
Zero 7 live...I've seen plenty of concert footage, and to me, they are just
like any pop band that performs live...and the main reason I see them this
way is because they have 2 really charismatic frontwomen. If Cinematic
would take along Roots Manuva, Fontella Bass, and anyone else they use for
vocals, I think they'd fare better live.
>From: Jason Witherspoon <arzachel_at_speakeasy.org>
>To: "Jon Bonanno" <jon_at_bondesen-graup.com>, "'J-Justice'"
><jason_at_suntzusound.com>, "'Peter Nicholson'" <bournik_at_svn.net>, "'Acid
>Jazz List'" <acid-jazz_at_ucsd.edu>
>Subject: RE: [acid-jazz] FW: Cancelled - JULY 1 The Cinematic Orchestra
>Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 11:37:17 -0700
>
>At 10:34 AM -0700 6/23/03, Jon Bonanno wrote:
>>I hate to rain on everyone's parade, but I think we need to keep the
>>quality of Cinematic Orchestra's music in perspective. As live jazz
>>musicians their talents are suspect (also see: Koop). For those of you
>>that enjoyed Cinematic so much in concert I have to words for you:
>>Pharoah Sanders.
>>
>>I was seriously bored at the Cinematic's recent LA show and am thinking
>>of avoiding musicians who make pleasant cross genre albums, but pass
>>themselves off as jazz musicians in concert. I thought for sure that
>>Cinematic would bring something different to their live performance (and
>>unless you call a few turntable provided beats something different);
>>they didn't.
>>
>>In a strange way, I find Zero 7 more compelling live than either
>>Cinematic or Koop.
>>
>>Jon
>>
>>p.s. You can blame the tone of this on the fact that it's Monday morning
>>- yuck!
>
>Just speaking studio for a second, I was a big fan of the first album, but
>since then-- stuff sounds a *lot* like lite jazz/sonic wallpaper. The
>"Theme de Yoyo" cover-- easily the highlight of the new album-- is a nice
>thought, but pretty darn pointless next to the original.
>
>Though I did enjoy Koop live. Go figure.
>
>Now if Chris Bowden would tour w/a live band-- that'd be something!
>--
>
> Jason Witherspoon
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> "...almost any idea which jogs you out of your current abstractions
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> http://www.konformist.com/911/war-is-a-racket.htm
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