From: Phil Broekelmann (phil.broekelmann_at_compost-rec.com)
Date: 2004-02-20 13:24:52
Yeah, music evolves.
If you are a Kraftwerk junkie and you listen to the brand new Beanfield maxi
"Tides", for instance, you might recognize a certain klicking clap sounding
distantly related to the clap in Kraftwerk's "Computer World".
The Beanfield tune (like the whole album) is 100% sample free, though, so
what's happening is kinda muzik, hehe, let's say kinda referential
imitation.
Sure, this sounds deeper than the usual "I dig Yam Who because it's fresh"
statements, and may be relevant for only a chosen few junkies, the moment
when they got it, makes up for a their pure joy of the new tune.
Phil
----- Original Message -----
From: "christina long" <info_at_citrona.net>
Cc: "Christopher Grass" <bluesjumper_at_hotmail.com>;
<olaf_at_interactivelink.nl>; <phil.broekelmann_at_compost-rec.com>;
<bp3565_at_hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: [acid-jazz] HELLO AGAIN!!! / question s
> Thank you all for your opinions. Very good points and looks to be some
> really good music recommendations.
>
> I absolutely agree music evolves. I also recognize that imitation can
> be used as tool which helps better understand an art or skill and may
> even help influence the creation of something original.
>
>
> Christopher Grass wrote:
>
> > Yeah, it's been kind of odd lately...I hear lots of people talking
> > about how nothing "good" is coming out. However, I think that 2004
> > will be even stronger than 2003, although the current signs in the
> > music industry should say otherwise. I mean, look what's already come
> > out: The new John Beltran is gorgeous, the new Hacienda album "This
> > Very Moment" really has some nice songs on it...only a couple of so-so
> > tracks, which isn't too bad (out of 15 tunes!). One of them really
> > reminded me of the direction 4Hero was going in on their last album.
> > The new Jazztronik lp is also at the top of my playlist (I prefer the
> > album edit of Samurai to the extended version, too). The new Sequel
> > album is very strong, one of Sonar Kollektiv's finest to date
> > (although I will miss their output on Straight Ahead Recs.). Heck,
> > look what's on tap for this year: The new Sweetback, the new Zero 7,
> > the new Blue Foundation album, Fragile State's sophomore effort, a new
> > album from The Egg (hopefully) and Alpha-X on Bar de Lune, New Sector
> > Movements, the fantastic new Quant lp, new Micatone tunes, Raw Deal's
> > second album (with any luck), and who knows what else.
> > My wallet sure has been complaining lately.
> > By the way, anyone know where I can get the new Coldfeet disc,
> > "Jazzfeet"?
> > I am in love with Lori Fine :)
> > Well, her voice, anyway. I don't really know her as a person.
> > Lisa Bassenge of Micatone broke my heart, so I had to find a new
> > object of affection ;)
> >
> >
> >> From: "Olaf Molenveld" <olaf_at_interactivelink.nl>
> >> To: "Phil Broekelmann" <phil.broekelmann_at_compost-rec.com>,
> >> "christina long" <info_at_citrona.net>
> >> CC: "Acid Jazz ml - UCSD" <acid-jazz_at_ucsd.edu>
> >> Subject: Re: [acid-jazz] HELLO AGAIN!!! / question s
> >> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:38:44 +0100
> >>
> >> personally i think all interesting music is evolutionary instead of
> >> revolutionary....it takes pieces from the past, and mixes them up in an
> >> interesting way to make a new mutation.... imho this has always been
> >> the way
> >> things go..of course technological innovations enabled new mutations in
> >> music, but still it's all based on things that happened earlier (look
> >> at the
> >> references of house/techno to ancient tribal music)...
> >>
> >> it's funny, there seems to be some kind of silence for the storm
> >> feeling in
> >> the music community worldwide..everyone i talk to is discussing about
> >> things
> >> like "dj'ing isn't interesting anymore", or "there isn't any cool new
> >> music
> >> coming out" etc.etc...... i feel something new is
> >> brewing......everything is
> >> cyclic in life.........i think something new and interesting is coming
> >> up....and i think it will first start with a fusion of DJ'ing with life
> >> performing..using maybe laptops, but also live elements....not a
> >> sax-player
> >> blowing the same repeating riff over a DJ's record, but much more
> >> integrated
> >> and musically...... this has also to do with the new music-distribution
> >> networks appearing.....DIY approach.....which forces musicians to get
> >> out
> >> there, to promote themselves, and the only way to do it is to make
> >> amazing
> >> music and play it live....perform...sell your cd's or vinyl at your
live
> >> gig.....and this also forces DJ's to go somewhere new.....because the
> >> dance-market is currently collapsing imho....making room for
> >> something new
> >> and interesting....a fusion of the old and proven (think soul, funk
> >> etc.)
> >> with new elements which we have been experimenting with for the last 2
> >> decades or so.....
> >>
> >> and now i have to go back and start programming my new traktor meets
> >> final
> >> scratch meets reason meets ableton live software ;)
> >>
> >> Olaf
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Phil Broekelmann <phil.broekelmann_at_compost-rec.com>
> >> To: christina long <info_at_citrona.net>
> >> Cc: Acid Jazz ml - UCSD <acid-jazz_at_ucsd.edu>
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 10:34 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [acid-jazz] HELLO AGAIN!!! / question s
> >>
> >>
> >> > Christina -
> >> >
> >> > you're so right, old school funk is back in a big way! as is
> >> middle-class
> >> > punk! as is melodic trance! and
> >> > singer-songwriter-jack-johnson-meets-skateboarders-turning-30 music.
> >> >
> >> > but why being deranged about that imitation? sometimes long-forgotten
> >> > elements can be trend-setting, too.
> >> >
> >> > some people feel inspired by James Brown, for instance. Some of
> >> them are
> >> > white, born in the 70ies in Europe and probably follow a slightly
> >> different
> >> > agenda of life, but still - they feel inspired. Have you listened
> >> to the
> >> > James Brown-ish Matthias Heilbronn mixes out on King Street, for
> >> example?
> >> If
> >> > this isn't innovative, I'm outta here.....
> >> >
> >> > Love
> >> > Phil
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
>
>