Re: new musician intro

a.karavis-staff-hum-jarrah-a930416 (choc@acs.itd.uts.edu.au)
Tue, 12 Sep 1995 17:20:08 +1000 (EST)


> boy, you are a yawn. I dont like the dead.. sorry. Never really liked
> white rock all that much. i was even outcast by my piers. Unfortunately I
> do care about your ignorance, and that last post was chock full. I do
> have a big bnname in the music world, actually a few different music
> worlds, I also am known for articles I write in music mags, and a few
> othe rhats , like arranging for others and doing commercials. I have
> lived, studied and learned alot about music, and if you dont agree fine,
> but dont make stuff up , it embasrrasing you know?
>
> Peace on you too.
>
Fingers. Fingers. Fingers. Let's play our cards straight. How about
declaring yourself? I will give due credit to your pedigree when I know
who you are and what you have achieved. It is easy to hide behind a
pseudonym and make claims. If I have made a mistake I will
admit to it. I will give you your dues if they are there to be given.

However I will not countenance any mofo joining a list and stirring
controversy just for the sake of effect. Go waste someone else's time. I
am not asking that you be kicked off the list because I believe in the
original spirit of Internet. That is, that anyone has the right to join
and participate in a mialing list. However I ask you to be respectful of
the protocols of Internet, particularly as they relate to mailing lists,
which state that you only make a contribution when you have something
worthwhile to say.

This particular list relates to acid jazz. The people who are on this
list have widely differing views of the genre/s and widely disparate
tastes. They are also people who are coming at it from different angles:
musicians, dj's, promoters, record label owners and distributors and
plain shit heads like me who aren't any of the above but just love that
intersection between soul, hip hop, jazz and r'n'b. I frequently disagree
with what is said on the list. For example, over the last few days people
have rubbished the Brooklyn Funk Essentials album which i really like for
its combination of ragga, jazz funk and hip hop. However I don't dump on
the people who don't like BFE because we are a catholic church with a
mostly tolerant congregation.

Being outspoken is find if it is for a purpose. However provocation for
provocation's sake is aimless and infantile. I don't understand your
delight in make outrageously stupid claims about acid jazz and young
musos with no chops. Sampling and the digitisation has changed the
paradigms which cover music and musicality. You may not like it or
understand it but hey that's the deal. Digable Planets may not be in the
same league as George Clinton but I will openly say that the two albums by
the Digables are better to my ears than anything Clinton has done in the
last 10. And I say this as someone who has everything that George was
involved with between 74 and 80. Hey maybe Brand New Heavies aren't half
the musicians that Earth, Wind and Fire were in the late 70's but damn
they are fine and soulful musicians. Are you trying to tell me Groove
Collective don't have the chops to play with the best of the 70's fusion
dudes? No way. They have just taken into another space, another phase.
There will never be another Isley Brothers. At the same time there will
never be another Public Enemy.

I will finsih off with a question. What stuff d you like which might fall
into the United Church of Acid Jazz (Unchurchacijazz)?? Have you heard
Jamiroquiou, Incognito, Brand New Heavies, the Solsonics, Brooklyn Funk
Essentials, ute, Directions In Groove, Night Trains, Mother Earth, Common
Sense, The Roots???

They are differtent braqches of that ever ebbing and flowing Afro
American tree. There would have been no Louis Jordan if there was no Cab
Calloway or Duke Ellington, there would be no Otis Redding if there was
no Little Richard, there would be no Pfunk if there was no Motown or Jimi
Hendricks, there would be no Eric B and Rakim if there was no James
Brown. there would be no Jodeci if there was no Temptations or Teddy
Pendergrass, there would be no Ice Cube if there was no Curtis Mayfield
and no Grandmaster Flasha and the Furious Five.

Over and out.