Re: Why jungle will never go mainstream!

feesh@asu.edu
Tue, 01 Jul 1997 17:01:48 -0700 (MST)

well, Im not sure I quite agree with everything you've said here. I work
in a record store in Phoenix Arizona of all places and I must say that as
far as all electronica we have in the store goes, jungle goes the fastest
and most consistently. if the kids in the desert can get it, I dont see
why anyone else wouldn't. Secondly, haven't younoticed the hype that
surrounds Photek? All right, maybe photek isn't the epitome of jungle,
but I'd say his style is certainly on the drum and bass side of things,
and he's all over Amp on MTV just like daft punk and the chem bros. or
whoever else. He's going to do alot to break this form of music (good or
bad as that may be).
I'm not saying that jungle will go as big gangsta rap or grunge, but it
will gain a much bigger following than you seem to think it is capable
of. I'm sick of all this crap about how American's don't understand
techno/electronica. There's all this talk these days about how the kids
in america are finally getting into techno! oooh. Groups have finally
come along that are accessible enough for America. like europe is so much
more advanced musically. whatever. so prodigy hit big in europe with
their last album and not in america until this one. so what. they're
still the same. it wasn't too hard to grasp before. America catching onto
Techno and jungle and whatever else is being treated like a kid wading
into a swimming pool, not wanting the water to touch his testicles. screw
all of that. plenty of us jumped in long ago.
scott (not sure if any of this made sense, but oh well)

On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, mark givens wrote:

> Dear List":
> There is a lot of talk about jungle; To quote Bono from the Live at
> red rocks album", maybe.. maybe too much talk." Some people think it
> and techno will be the next big thing . This is never going to happen
> much as i like Jungle. heres why 1
> Too fast- yanks will never buy anything that goes at 160 Bpms. in fact
> the peak is about 135 and thats fast for the avg radio station.
> Dazzy Dukes( bass) is up there at that level but higher than that, mix
> show maybe ;top ten never. 2
> lacks songs: Inner City life almost had a song but that as close as it
> gets uin junle unless they remix brandy. Lacks
> regional/racial base- house has a core folowing gays , people from
> chicago; miami bass has a black/southern core; rap had a core before
> it blew up. Jungle? its from the U.K. and in the states its a white rave
> thing. A base gives you an irreducible core that will keep the stuff
> viab;le as it goes in and out of fashion on the charts. Between gold
> sincles bass still sells month in month out to its core. Bass will break
> big before jungle and stay around. By the way Gangtsa/playya rap,
> with its southern/west coast core will always be with us on some
> level theyve even got their own magazine s and indie labels. This stuff
> will never die like it or not. My own thing has been to
> take jungle production methods chopped breaks, bass hits, stuttered drum
> and rolls, add party chants a la gogo and bass and make slow jungle at
> 120-135 bpms . By the way there is a Baltimore scene centered around
> the Paradox club and v103 mix shows that is pretty dope. the songs are
> repetitve the chants sex and drug inspired but its fresh . DOO DOO
> Brown!!!! markeg@hotmail.com
>
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