license free loop-disks pt 2 hip-hop

mark givens (markeg@hotmail.com)
Thu, 17 Jul 1997 08:32:46 PDT


Dear List:
This is a post about my experience with license free loop discs. The
concept is that for a one-time fee that includes a perpetual license
you can sample this disc and release it as a record. The fee is
higher than you pay at sam-goodys because this is a disc of loops
20 seconds long,then each part soloed, that is strictly for use by
15,000 or so "producers" with samplers. The price is usually
79-99\bucks each. Now you may ask"
Who is gonna give away million selling beats for a onetime payment of x%
of 15,000 times 99(bucks)?" If you were leon haywood wouldnt you rather
release "i wanna do something freaky to you " as a song then if son=me
guy uses it(DR DRE _G thang) he has to pay you a royalty + a fee
upfront. So how good could this stuff be? Thats what I thought
when i saw the ads in Keyboard magazine. So i ordered a demo disc
froM Big Fish Audio. Some stuff was acid some drum only and then
there was Loopzilla . At the time, Lz was going for 159.00 for 2
discs. When I heard the Lz demo on the free disc I went right out and
bought.... La Riot 2?1 by hollywood sound. You see the La riot disc
was cheape and once i was sold on the concept i bought the cheap disc.
These are my reviews. La Riot 2: this disc contains
west coast style loops, sax riff , guitar riffs, sola bass notes, an
complete drumkits from the 808,1200, 909, and others. The analogue
patches are mainly from a c-80. The west coast style was blowin up and
i really neded something that sounded new without it being from a
record. the idea was to compete with Ant banks and studio Tone(e-40)
without habving a band in the bedroom. This disc had no G-funk funky
worm stuff and had a lot of fnder Bass gutar and standujazz loops. And
all the tracks had a 'Bump' subtrack to it. The loops weere cvool
some coulve been used then as is. Now the sound is getting dated. The
sax "riffs" were squeals a skronks that had no real notes tothem. At
leastthe sax player was saving his copyrightable stuff for his own
album. The drum kits were good if you wanted to make a multi-sampled
instrument(EPS-lingo)for drums. final verdict: Buy it now for the parts
esp acid jazz. Loopzilla: The Bomb. Its est coast styles
include G-funk Moog stuff and funky worm noises. Plus track 3 still can
be taken in its entirety as a Mowax type thing(add you own Mlk
soundbytes ). These guys held nothing back. Some complaints
on disc 2 he loops were too short for looping an were mor for laying end
to end on a sequencer to make "loops." Plus some of this stuff was
taking of records and if you're guiless and clueless you could get sued
by kool and the gang among others(again disc 2). tHE SOLO BASSLINE AND
PIANO LOOPS WERE USELESS( CAPS ACCIDENTAL) . Final verdict : still good
and at 100.00 worth it Big Fish audio.
3) Brotherhood: big fish 79.00 wack!- if this had been my first license
free cd i wolud never have bought another. Sounds like white guys"aping"
the west coast style. Loops seem to be made for sequencing strips end to
end not looping. an holding down the keys which i still do. "aping":
this wis what those apes like he hee haw. Big fis blew it and i told
them so on the phone 20 mins after i recieved this crud in the mail.
Final verdict: cannibalize for parts but only 2 loops worth taking as
is. 4) Bass
bomb: Hollywood Sound 100.00. I got this free. how ? I ordered direct
from the shop, as always in these things, and they sent some 2,500
dollars worth of stuff for hollywood film editors helicopters
sound= fx. Since this stuff was not what i wanted , silly me I
sent it back. In return they comped me on this. Boy i got screwed. it a
cd off bass lines and again analgogue riff pluss standup and fretless
riff. The fender guy got off a cooupla times but in general it was a lot
of rock stuff being passed of as funky. The fretless guy just
did slides and wipes . The standup guy was just that (probably some jazz
guy that loves music and once ah=agian easnt thiinking business wise
-fortunately). the patches were god an deep with a lot of pans and
sweeps. verdict: worth what i paid for it! afterword and
predictions: If I were to buy
another I would buy Loopzilla 2. It has even more southern(incl miami
bass) stuff and I still put faith in BFA. The la riot team is
shot(they did bass bomb) and would be skeptical of la riot 3 even thogh
keyboard gave it good reviews.They liked brother hood. They are idiots.
The jungle things coming out would do for bass patches and effects plus
a lazy mans way to get jungle loops( as if you cant just raid you own
D&b stack - its all the same shit). Question: anyone hear
vinylistics ?

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