RE: why the british succed at trip hop


angedella isafella (notmusic@hotmail.com)
Mon, 06 Dec 1999 19:36:51 GMT



dear list: I was sort of exagerrating. The thing is that trip hop is what
you get when dj and producers have the proper beats and norappers. I think
beatwise the brits are as good as our best. I coleet r and b mixes by people
like Lynsley and I actually liked Darkman('yabba dabba doo") but i was
making a point about necessity .

>From: "Dirk van den Heuvel" <dirkv@groovedis.com>
>To: "Beside" <beside@makeme.com>, "angedella isafella"
><notmusic@hotmail.com>, <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
>Subject: RE: why the british succed at trip hop
>Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 14:42:37 -0600
>
>I was trying to stay out of this given the last thread, but any one out
>there really thinks UK (or European) rap sucks they don't know what they're
>talking about. They may not be as good AS A WHOLE as the US, but that
>doesn't change the fact that there are some excellent crews out there doing
>hip-hop, both instrumental and with raps. Admittedly some of the raps are
>hard for us Americans to dig, and some are downright lousy, but many can
>flow very very well. For anyone who wants to broaden their horizons here's
>some starting points (IMHO):
>
>UK: Blackanized, Reachout, anything on Ronin, Aim and practically anything
>else on Grand Central, some of the stuff on Son, Funky DL, Mark B and the
>Jazz Fudge posse, DJ Bombjack, DJ Kuku, Harry Love and the whole Scratch
>Perverts crew, Hombre's got some dope stuff out-check Numskulls or Hundred
>Strong
>
>Germany: DJ Peabird, Fettes Brottes, Five Star Deluxe (esp. the beats)
>
>France: I Am, DJ Cutkiller and his whole crew
>
>That's just off the top of my head, if I worked at it I could list a lot
>more. The problem is in America you aren't going to get to hear most of
>this
>as there are very few stores that stock it (and we're pretty much the only
>importer that distributes it).
>
>
>Dirk van den Heuvel (dirkv@groovedis.com)
>Groove Distribution
>www.groovedis.com
>Your Guide To The Underground
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Beside [mailto:beside@makeme.com]
>Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 4:49 AM
>To: angedella isafella; acid-jazz@ucsd.edu
>Subject: Re: why the british succed at trip hop
>
>
>
> >From: "angedella isafella" <notmusic@hotmail.com>
> >dear list: the reason Brits lead in Trip hop and Jungle is because they
> >suck at hop hip. Okay your a british guy you gotta sampler and some
>records
> >.You know the moves(dj) and you love hip hop and being white(mostly) you
> >like other stuff too. Now when you and your pasty friends go to make a
> >record with brit raps .... YOU SUCK! SUCK Suck!
>
>Brits suck at hiphop???!!! So Mark B and DJ Skitz' beats arent any good?
>Blade isnt a good mc? Killer Kela isnt the closest thing to god when it
>comes to beatboxing? the Scratch Perverts arent good dj's?
>UK hiphop might not be as good as some of the stuff from the states, but
>saying that they suck is ridiculous.
>I really dont think you have a clue about what you're talking about.
>
> >In the states white
> >guys haven given up on trying to rap and they havent given up on metal.
>
>What do you mean white guys have given up on trying to rap? Who exactly are
>you refering to? Markey Mark and Vanilla Ice? I really dont think they
>count...
>There are loads of *very* good white mc's in the states, but since they
>dont
>live up to any of the hiphop stereotypes you dont see them on MTV .. you
>hardly even see them in The Source or Rap Pages.
>
>Eligh, Dose, Sole, Esoteric, Cage, The Grouch, El-P, Buck65, Pedestrian and
>Necro are all very white and most definetly havent given up on hip hop, and
>theres more where they came from...
>
>Beside
>
>
>
>

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