angedella isafella (notmusic@hotmail.com)
Wed, 08 Dec 1999 19:59:34 GMT
dear list: Hey Black people(scott joplin)invented ragtime but thats not who
listens to it. ;)
My point is that the writer said that r and b is inbred and
needs to embrace these other black created musics like 4-hero and duane
atkins techno. Im saying A )r and b is fairly good today. B) "The brothers
dont be checkin for 4 hero at the rekkid sto" (joking) . r AND B see
CELLI's "CAUGHT OUT THERE" . i like the melodies that Destiny's Child ..
this stuff is good and yes its done under certain constraints of tempo .
Techno is also rigid as in 4 /4 bangng away. Jungle is ... something else.
The article did give props to Timbaland for his mainstreaming of jungle. I
just was sticking up for R and B.
>From: stephanie <nnine@yahoo.com>
>To: angedella isafella <notmusic@hotmail.com>
>CC: ajlist <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
>Subject: Re: URB
>Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 09:18:54 -0800 (PST)
>
>I don't understand what you're saying. Can you
>clarify, please? Are you saying black people want
>nothing to do with jungle and techno? that doens't
>make any sense to me, since many innovators of both
>genres were(are) black, and that statement seems
>misguidedly hung up on race. Are you saying soul as a
>genre is unwilling or incapable of incorporating those
>influences?
>
>I think I'm totally confused and just don't get what
>you're saying.
>
>The real techno innovators are in SWEDEN!!!!! Mmmmm,
>delicious crunchy beats....Cari Lekebush... =9
>
>--- angedella isafella <notmusic@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > dear list: I hated the latest issue of Urb "the
> > future issue" .The most
> > Insulted part was the part about R and b music .The
> > notion that new soul can
> > be made by including jungle and techno influences.
> > I imagine black people
> > thinkig"Is the girl crazy" ? R and B is the music
> > that consistently has to
> > marry innovation and mass appeal with formualic
> > production and
> > mechanization. Given the constraints these guys
> > operate under they have
> > quite a job . The future of soul isnt some four
> > four stuff though im sure
> > this is some place for it. Im also tiredd of hearing
> > about the detroit crew
> > of techno inventors. Gee they are in every other
> > issue > i liked Big fun but
> > hey it was a while ago.
> >
> >
> > >From: "christopherotto" <cotto1@gl.umbc.edu>
> > >To: <acid-jazz@ucsd.edu>
> > >Subject: Re: spin
> > >Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 07:42:38 -0800
> > >
> > > > 3) call '99 the year of the "house music
> > revival"
> > >
> > >when was the first house era?
> > >
> > > > The way trends pop up and die off is so
> > disgusting
> > > > because they're a complete fabrication by
> > publications
> > > > like this. Magazines of this calibre never have
> > > > existed to celebrate music or any of the joy it
> > brings,
> > > > only to shout about what's currently (and thus
> > definitely
> > > > not permanently) cool. I could care less about
> > being
> > > > "commercial" vs. being "indie", who cares if
> > Spin is
> > > > "commercial", it's irrelevant: it's not about
> > the music.
> > >
> > >wordemup. my favourite parts were:
> > >
> > >1. their wholsale appropriation of design style
> > from the face the other
> > >year
> > >2. "the big beat invasion"
> > >4. the fashion spread about bboying that looked
> > like it was video grabbed
> > >from beat street
> > >
> > >also the articles that talk about modest mouse as
> > if they were part of
> > >fluxus or something are a little hard to look at-
> > it is kind of hard to
> > >find
> > >a balnce though in music writng between media
> > theory type stuff and saying
> > >thing slike " this shit is dope" but when it works
> > it is great
> > > the face, surface, urb, and xlr8r have some
> > decent stuff sometimes on
> > >this
> > >tip.
> > >
> > >christopherotto
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Jonathan
> > >
> >
> >
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