Erik Gaderlund (erikg@macconnect.com)
Sun, 24 Oct 1999 17:13:31 -0700
But, DMX and Jay-z just have the same Cubase/MPC2000 beats, or at least
when I bother to listen (actually it's their mysogeny that turns me off.)
And, maybe absolute hardheads is what 'being real' is, but, I'm more
partial to those who boast about their musical ability--and have it--rather
than their moneymaking ability (or don't boast at all just DO.) Its just,
in the 90s, its only "Show me the money", I tend to avoid big money making
artists, because I don't agree with the majority of the _CD_ buying public
who make said artists all their money. Like the mumbles I've heard from
the Country people (a music genre I don't care for) moaning that Country
has become "Rock in Funny Hats."
And, you've got to realize, whether it's Jazz, Blues, Hip-Hop, Acid Jazz
and such, the majority (Whitey) does have the numbers and the money, so
the're the buyers on the fringe as well as the center, though the even more
'white' Europeans have better taste, or more varience in fringe music (like
ours.) I read an review of a new book on the start of Bop (Jazz after
Swing) and that it was largely the urban whites who were the paying
audience that kept bop going, and the fact that the laws kept large groups
playing (swing), the small combos took over.
I guess that's why I'm somewhat dissappointed here in the Majority-Minority
area of the Bay Area, and our music choices are slowly slipping away into
the boring majority.
Staying real is staying _true_ to yourself, not to the record buying public.
And, we could always chance it to Future Jazz from Acid Jazz (what Lamb
calls their music)
erik g
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>
>dear list: I read about this unda ?over-ground debate in the recent source.
>The guy from the roots called Jay-z and Dmx(/) commercial as hell. Bullshit!
>Dmx was the darkest weirdest he-man no girls allowed shit to hit in years.
>because it crosses over and sell hes mainstream
>and the Roots are artist? Bulljewels! The Ropots are the smoother and more
>soothing. Plus it seems that the Roots' audience is white College kids and
>"backpackers".Which is fine until you start doing realness checks on other
>people. If real ="core audience"appeal and vaguely inscrutable/scary. its
>gotta be DMX over the roots/. I like em both.
>
>>
>>I never agreed with the idea that more people being into a band
>>automatically makes the band less credible or worthwhile. I think that
>>attitude also manifests itself with deejays who cover up the labels on
>>their
>>records so no one else can get them, with store buyers who buy just enough
>>copies of certain records for them and their homies but not enough for the
>>average customer to get one, and deejays who don't play records that "break
>>out" or crossover. Diss a band because they suck not because they sell a
>>100,000 records. I think bands like Brand New Heavies, Incognito,
>>Jamiroquai, etc are worth discussing. Personally I think the new Jamiroquai
>>record is very mediocre but I base that on the record and not on the fact
>>that they are know mega-stars. I would love for the bands I like to get
>>famous and make a lot of money, lord knows they deserve it. So everyone go
>>out and buy Estereo if you haven't already :> or Visit Venus or Sternklang.
>>
>>
>>
>>Dirk van den Heuvel (dirkv@groovedis.com)
>>Groove Distribution
>>www.groovedis.com
>>Your Guide To The Underground
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: debora2 [mailto:debora2@robotek.ru]
>>Sent: Sunday, October 24, 1999 2:25 PM
>>To: acid-jazz@ucsd.edu
>>Subject: Re: Why not Jamiroquai?
>>
>>
>> > Because Jamiroquai is mainstream now and we hate everything that's
>>mainstream
>> > and like to pick on little tykes who just suddenly discovered Jamiroquai
>>on MTV
>> > because we like to show them we're much cooler than them.
>> >
>> > <said somewhat sarcastically>
>> >
>> > Elson
>>
>>That's really funny. You mean that music is good when less than 10000
>>people listen it?
>>And when there are 10001 this music becomes dirty mainstrean? I understand
>>-
>>you were
>>talking sarcastically - but as we say in Russia - "every joke has a part of
>>joke".
>>
>>
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