Re: We Be Clubbin! (was... rare groove)

From: dj t-bird (djt_bird@yahoo.com)
Date: Fri Jun 02 2000 - 12:32:57 MET DST

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    > At 10:11 PM 6/1/00 -0700, Steve Catanzaro wrote:
    > >Well, I still maintain that of all the "big" cities I've spent any time
    in
    > >(Chi, NY, LA mostly) Phoenix is, for my tastes, very, VERY much the most
    > >backward musically. (A "little" behind the times? "What Is Hip" was
    > >recorded in '73! When will they catch up?!?!)

    apparently, the hiphoppers have--z-trip has made quite a name for himself.
    there's also quite a few hiphop events from what i 've heard...

    > ....When someone puts out some initiative. I've never been to The Surface
    of
    > The Sun, I mean, the Valley of The Sun :) but I've heard of some people on
    > this list who were from the Phoenix area... Stephen Pond, where are you?
    > Granted, Phoenix may not be an AJ mecca, but perhaps you haven't looked
    > hard enough?
    > Happening things don't just happen in cities by themselves, it happens
    when
    > people put out some initiative, some persistence and A LOT of publicity...

    i have to agree w/elson on that--and it's not just homey backup! think
    about san diego. which town is known for more "happening" events, l.a. or
    san diego? there was much more of an aj scene in san diego (i know greyboy
    lives there, but can you name another known aj producer from s.d.?) than
    there *ever* was in l.a. there were groups/djs that wouldn't even play
    l.a.--they'd go to san diego, then to san francisco!

    > >"Rare groove" in Phoenix seems to mean "To Be Real" and "Pick Up The
    > >Pieces." At least in LA there's some variety... kind of... (back in the
    > >late '80's, the strip was bustling with choices... Warrant... Poison...
    Guns
    > >& Roses....all in a 1 mile radius...!)
    >
    > The Strip Sucks. Always have, always will.

    i've seen quite a few good shows at the viper room...

    > >And, cool stuff happens, like last Tuesday when Herbie and Slash got down
    at
    > >teeny-tiny Backstage Cafe on an impromptu jam... yeah.... that's what I'm
    > >sayin!

    hmm... i may have to drag my ass over to backstage--you still got connex,
    steve?

    > One weird quirk about New Yorkers is that they ALWAYS feel compelled to
    > compare NYC to any other metropolitan area or region that happens to come
    > into conversation...

    hometown pride!! i'm on the other hand, oddly self-loathing about my
    town--though i hate having outsiders diss it.

    >Not to diss NYers, but they seem oddly freakish about
    > that sort of thing. Try it once: Next time you ride the subway, introduce
    > yourself to a native and say, "Hi, my name is ____. I'm from _______" the
    > first thing to come out of the NYer's mouth is a stereotype/generalization
    > about that place...

    i've always chalked it up to nyc humor--in my experience the diss has always
    been kinda funny.

    > But before we turn this into a Battle of the Cities, I just want to say
    this...
    > It does little to diss cities for not having this or not having that
    > (musically or otherwise). Because there may very well be people or a
    > movement or something that's trying to improve, to change, and to put down
    > their "territory" seems to symbolically destroy all they've worked for. I
    > should know, I've been involved in many community-related projects in Los
    > Angeles.

    "...you on point phife?
    once again, tip!" -tribe



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