Re: "Jazz Flavours" (was Re: ltj jazzhead?)

From: Lee Gordon (leegordon@seanet.com)
Date: Wed Jun 07 2000 - 18:25:06 MET DST

  • Next message: The Seventh Sun: "Urban Groovz feat. Afro Blue & Zenobia"

    Lee Gordon, back on the list after almost a year off it... Running the risk of
    being flame-worthy, I just have to dis-agree with the global dis of all k.
    gorelick's material. His early material was more than a simple parroting of his
    inspirational sources. It was creative, straight ahead jazz; although I must
    acknowledge being a Jeff Lorber fan in those days as well, Jeff was moving very
    quickly toward the "lite jazz/electronica" end of the spectrum. Kenny, however,
    possessed an organic sound which screamed from the heavens (check out his cut
    "Crystal Mountain", which is running through my head right now, but also which
    comes from an album I cannot recall). His first two albums had a very strong
    and deep soulful quality- that's why so many of us have been thoroughly dismayed
    at his being completely co-opted by the forces of evil. But, after divorcing
    his wife because she didn't move with him from Seattle to LA, he himself once
    told me "you gotta do what you gotta do". Now we've got Pork, K7, G-Stone,
    Ninja, et.al., to fill in voids...

    Cheers

    lg

    dj t-bird wrote:

    > > >As much as I respect LTJ and his crew for what they've done; I can't help
    > but
    > > feel that they get too comfortable rehashing the same "atmospheric breaks"
    > > that they've been using for the past decade.
    > >
    > > if you want to hear where these guys get their inspiration (and samples)
    > from
    > > check out lonnie liston smiths mid and late 70's lps ie expansions,
    > loveland,
    > > etc... From memory one track on loveland has a huge sample from Logical
    > > progression 1 on it.. The atmospherics and electric piano work are
    > clearly a
    > > big influence on the aformentioned dnb guys..
    >
    > bukem is also a really big fan of the "jazz-not-jazz" label cti (creed
    > taylor inc.). cti is responsible for a lot of the source music of the
    > sample-based stuff that we're into on this list (bob james' "nautilus",
    > grover washington's "hydra" are two easy examples). at the time that a lot
    > of the stuff came out on this label (late 60's-70's) there were authenticity
    > issues in jazz too. although grover could swing w/the best of them (and did
    > in fact release a straight-ahead record--i forget the title) he was
    > definitely a precursor of the kenny g/george howard/najee types...
    >
    > as much as i hate mr. gorelick's present music, i can't say that i never
    > owned anything he's done (i'm an old jeff lorber fan, sorry). as a matter
    > of fact, i own ken's first album and there's a solo sax bit on it that blew
    > away a friend of mine ("i didn't know he could play like that!!) when i told
    > him who it was. my revenge has been to recycle his licks into music he
    > would never recognize--i.e., i've re-organized his lines for my own tunes!!
    >
    > -t



    This archive was generated by hypermail 2b29 : Wed Jun 07 2000 - 18:33:27 MET DST